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    B]WHO is the Pink Pasty or in this case 'utterlydestroyed'?[/B]

    "I have every sympathy for those falsely accused & who endure the commonplace practise of police abuse & intimidation as a result. This is my story to date "

    Malcolm Lidbury: - Gay Equality & HIV/AIDS Campaigner, Artist, Writer, Sculptor.

    Born in Barnet Middlesex, 1959, Malcolm was the younger of two sons. He grew up in Potters Bar, Hertfordshire, going to Mount Grace Comprehensive School. He moved to the County of Cornwall in 1977, worked as a herdsman, antique restorer and at Mount Wellington Mine, one of the last working tin mines in Cornwall. He served six months in prison in 1988. He has been married once and divorced.

    1989 he came ‘out’ as a gay man. He was founder, publisher, & editor of the ‘Independent Cornish Triangle’ 1992-1994, a local LGBT newsletter in rural Cornwall, UK with both male & female readership, it had over 1,000 subscribers.

    Tim Teeman, former editor of the National Pink Paper wrote of Lidbury in 1997 as:- “Malcolm is more than just an effective campaigner. He is also an extremely brave and forthright one. He is the most public face of homosexuality in the region. This is a tough position for anyone to hold. Not only must he face the prejudice of narrow minded heterosexuals, he must also combat fear and ignorance on the part of gays in Cornwall, who would prefer certain matters to remain private and not discussed.”

    In May 1994 Lidbury organised the first ever Gay PRIDE gathering in Cornwall, an evening in support of the London PRIDE Trust. Attended by Teddy Witherington, London Pride Trust Director, Adam Jeanes London Pride Chair, & ‘Yvette’ of Love Muscle.

    In August 1994 Lidbury’s partner, Andrew Roger Smith was diagnosed with HIV/AIDS. The couple fought a public battle against prejudice and discrimination. Their home subjected to dog excrement attack, graffiti, they received hate mail and death threats, local youths ‘stoned’ Andrew, after he had gone blind as a result of an HIV/AIDS related symptomatic condition. This was reported to Cornwall police, police reaction

    Police Quote "Your gay and have HIV/AIDS, what do you expect?"

    Cornwall police did nothing to assist. The couple slept with pre-prepared petrol bombs on their window sile, least they needed to defend their home in which Andrew was blind.

    The couple won an Ombudsman enquiry & compensation against Kerrier District Council for maladministration for failing to comply with housing benefit regulations to Andrew, who was gay & terminally ill.

    In May 1995, Gay Times Magazine named Lidbury in the 200th celebratory edition as one of the top 200 gay people in Britain for contribution to gay community, equality & HIV/AIDS campaigning and awareness in Cornwall.

    Lidbury was a trustee of the HIV/AIDS Cornwall Aids Council, trustee for the discretionary HIV/AIDS Sprocket Trust and gay men’s voluntary support worker for the Truro City Hospital GU Clinic.Lidbury organised and ran an LGBT supper group, along with a midweek lgbt social group & a summer weekend tea garden throughout 2003-05.

    He organised the only gay rally in Cornwall on equalising of the age of consent, which featured in the CH4 television documentary "Age of Dissent", produced by Will Parry, one of the young men who took Britain to the European Courts over the age of consent, leading to the equality of consent. Lidbury jokes that Will left Cornish pasty crumbs all over his front room carpet.

    Lidbury was the LGBT STONEWALL Equality 2000 representative for the Falmouth/Camborne constituency.In April 1996, Malcolm and Andrew publicly contributed taking part visibly in an HIV/AIDS documentary made by Westcountry television ‘Days of Judgment’ about HIV/AIDS in the south west of England at a time when it was publicly dangerous to be open with both ones gay sexuality and his partners HIV/AIDS status in Cornwall.

    3rd Oct 1997, readership of the National LGBT newspaper Pink Paper voted Lidbury as No. 119 of the 500 people who had historically had the greatest influence upon gay life in Britain.

    In Nov 1996, Lidbury whilst taking part in a live television studio debate as invited guest speaker on LGBT issues, he received on behalf of two Spanish gay men an apology on Westcountry television from the English Tourist Board, WestCountry & Cornish tourist board for homophobic prejudicial breaches of the British tourist board ‘pink’ book of rules.

    In 1997, following the death of Andrew Roger Smith, Lidbury posthumously won on behalf of his former partner a public apology from Cornwall County Council for adverse treatment and failure to deliver statutory care to Andrew as an HIV/AIDS sufferer.

    Lidbury was a founder member of the Cornwall & Isles of Scillies Health Authority Gay Men’s Health steering group and instrumental in creation of the Cornwall Gay Men’s Health Project in 1997. Now known as Healthy Gay Cornwall

    Unfortunately the Cornwall & Isles of Scilly Health Authority took the attitude ALL gay men were potential criminals and put the Criminal Probation Service in charge of administering the Cornwall Gay Mens Health Project.

    As a result this ostracised & excluded many informed gay men from the Cornwall gay health project, including Mr Lidbury who resigned in disgust.

    He has been subsequently barred from all access to gay health care via the Cornwall gay health project ever since

    Ironically, Lidbury was personally responsible for writing a damning and widely circulated report on HIV/AIDS:- "Implication for Cornwall".

    The report sponsored by the National Gay Business Assoc. The C.A.R.A Trust, The Life Benefits Resource Foundation, Ivan Massow Associates, Gay West Lesbian & Gay Society, Bristol, Body Positive Somerset, The Holistic Therapy Centre Plymouth & The Sprocket HIV/AIDS Trust.

    Lidbury attended in 1996 as an independent delegate at Health Authority conferences in Plymouth & Salisbury and he was instrumental in obtaining the original increase in funding for HIV preventative project for gay men in Cornwall.

    In Oct 1997, he made and won an Advertising Standards Authority complaint against a local business, ‘Trago Mills’. The Trago millionaire owner Mike Robinson had run adverts in local Cornish newspapers advocating “the castration of gay men”.

    In 1997 following further harassment from Cornish authorities Lidbury attempted suicide, he withdrew from active contribution to gay equality and HIV/AIDS campaigning.

    In 2004, the LGBT Intercom Trust asked Lidbury to assist with a forum on Cornwall LGBT community opinion of the Criminal Justice Service as part of research for the Lord Justice Kay award 2005.

    The original location for the lgbt meeting was cancelled in part due to the conduct and actions of Helston police officer DC woods (thankfully retired) against Mr Lidbury.

    Valuable insight into Cornwall police thinking & attitudes against gay persons between 2004-07. DC Magnus Scott has much to answer for his instigation of abuses against gay people in Cornwall carried out by the Cornwall police

    # When a gay employer enabled 16/17yr old student gay/bi employees to attend a GU Clinic in work time to receive professional sexual health advice & inoculations against Hepatitis

    …Cornwall police considered this to be an offence of ‘SEXUAL GROOMING”

    # When a gay employer allowed 16/17yr old gay/bi student employees to watch a gay themed film on a rainy day, NB: The film was the 15 Certificate comedy, “The Birdcage”, starring Gene Hackman & Robin Williams.

    ...Cornwall police considered this to be “SEXUAL GROOMING”.

    # When a 16yr old ‘out’ gay youth (S. Read) choose a ‘Secret Santa’ gift of a pair of Tesco Christmas underpants & a small rubber novelty willy key ring for his 17yr old bisexual closet boyfriend (D. Tressider).

    ...Cornwall Police considered this to be “SEXUAL GROOMING”.

    # When a woman spread rumours (T. Tressider) that a gay man had HIV/AIDS (he did not and had to prove it with a letter from the GU Clinic) & screamed homophobic abuse at him in the streets in front of a witness. Her son later confided that his mother conspired with another over a false allegation against a gay man.

    Cornwall police (Inspector Bolt, previously of Helston) stated in 'writing' this was NOT (HOMOPHOBIC) harassment. (established by IPCC)

    This is merely the tip of the iceberg of reported but un-investigated homophobic police incidents against lgbt persons in Cornwall, UK. A protracted four-year period of conflict followed between Lidbury and the Cornwall police who raided his home in Nov 2004, arresting him & seizing his computer.

    The four year vendetta & abuses by Cornwall police is still continuing unabated against Mr Lidbury in 2009


    ...continued in next posting

  • #2
    ...UTTERLYDESTROYED continued

    No criminal charges resulted against Lidbury for false allegations made and police Criminal Forensics admitted both in an Independent Police Complaints Commission report & in Civil Crown Court in Sept 2006 there were NO ‘alleged’ illegal images on the computer.

    However, Lidbury's businesses were entirely destroyed by the police actions. This has never been addressed.

    Lidbury: a listed gay artist with a Middlesex University Archive of gay artists, along with Hockney, Mapplethorpe, Gilbert, & George. In Nov 97, Lidbury jointly exhibited at the Penzance Art Club his male bronze figures with Leigh Heppell a sculptor of erotic female forms. Lidbury has Artwork in the Barcelona Spanish Museum of Erotic Art and Homosexual Art Foundation in New York, USA.

    In 2004, Cornwall police attempted unsuccessfully to prosecute Lidbury for his perfectly legal homocentric Art.

    In Civil Court, Judge Rucker homophobically condemned and referred to Lidbury’s 20 year contribution to gay equality & HIV/AIDS care treatment & awareness campaigning as ‘Evangelical Proselytising’.

    Regarding assistance Lidbury & his mother had given to 16/17yr old gay/bi youth, the Judge incorrectly referred to the equal age of consent becoming effective with the Sexual Offences Act 2003 (effective 1st May 2004), this was of course wrong as the age of equal consent of homosexuals with heterosexuals became effective 1st Jan 2001.

    THE JUDGE WAS WRONG & HOMOPHOBIC in the opinion of ALL the many gay persons in the public gallery!

    Assistance given to a homeless Cornish gay youth (and by Lidbury's 75yr old pensioner mother, who became the youths landlady ) was described by the Judge as “Grossly Irresponsible”, even in the total absence & refusal of assistance to him as a gay youth by the Cornish Authorities.

    It was entirely ignored by the court that Cornwall police, Cornwall Social Services, Cornwall youth services & Cornwall education dept. had ALL been fully aware that the 15yr old youth had been living homeless & rough on the streets of Helston for 2 months as a 15yr old child. The authorities of Cornwall did absoloutely NOTHING to help the homeless gay youth! This sort of homophobic abuse is the accepted norm by the Cornish authorities and abusive Cornwall police officers like those named & identified throughout this blog.

    Cornwall Social Services failed entirely to meet a single one of their own objectives they set themselves at his case conference, adding to the abuse he had already suffered in the family home & homophobic environment of Helston school & Jim Walters, a Cornwall Social Worker attempted to blackmail the gay youth. (This was recorded by Mr JC Smith)

    In the absence of ANY authority assistance, Mr Lidbury had been asked by some members of the public & serving members of the Navy to assist the gay youth.


    None of the gay supporters in the public gallery that day, left court without the knowledge that Institutional Homophobia within both the Cornwall police & the judicial system in Cornwall was, still and remains a sinister & grave problem....still today in 2008/09

    Members of the Lidbury household have continued to be relentlessly targeted & intimidated by Cornwall police.

    Despit reporting to Cornwall police:-

    . attempted blackmail

    . theft from the property

    . car damadge

    . threats of physical assult & violence


    Cornwall police DO NOTHING due to involvement of their own police officers in instigating these offences against members of the Lidbury household


    In 2006, Lidbury’s 74yr old pensioner mother was verbally abused by Cornwall police (abuser PC Alexander of Helston) when Mrs Lidbury went to give witness assistance to a gay youth being persecuted by police. The youth was already a witness against police for other formal complaints of police homophobic conduct made to the IPCC.

    The youth was detained by police in a chapel coffee morning, he was subjected to a partial strip search, sworn at, and then forcibly taken by police to a retail outlet. The shop staff positively identified the youth WAS NOT the person who had stolen an item. Police then failed to give a stop and search form & failed to apologise to the youth or his pensioner landlady, Mrs Lidbury. The reason police gave for targeting the gay youth was he had ‘Blue Hair’.

    This is the Cornwall authority & Cornwall police abused gay youth, Peter Midwood's own video which he co-created & produced on his own video channel on youtube.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sr7eGX-Rux0

    It remains the opinion of those involved, police deliberately targeted the gay youth as he was a witness in formal IPCC complaint procedures against other Cornwall police officers, namely PC Tar & another abusive officer.

    The person who was actually responsible for the theft later detained & prosecuted by police, however there has never been an apology from Cornwall police for the abusive intimidation & treatment by PC Alexander & the other police officer, neither to the innocent gay youth or his pensioner landlady, but thats the HOMOPHOBIC Cornwall police for you.

    In May 2006, Lidbury along with another gay/bi male were violently assaulted in Helston Cornwall. The other gay/bi male was bottled over the head, and then violently kicked in the head, face chest & stomach by the assailants. Mr Lidbury shielded the prone victim with his body, preventing attempts by the assailants to stamp on the victims head. The assault witnessed by numerous persons, many of whom were also gay.

    However when the victim reported to the police it was a ‘homophobic assault’, police told the victim Mr P Lealand to: quote “Shut up, be quiet, you don’t want to say that”. This entirely contary to the 'True Vision' police policy on dealing with a homophobic incident & CPS (Crown Prosecution Service) policy on homophobic incidents.

    The police then allowed the assailants to leave the scene (the police helped them into a taxi) despite Mr Lidbury having positively identified the assailants to police. Mr Lidbury took the injured male to hospital for stitches & x-ray. Directly due to the hostile & prejudicial attitude of the police attending the scene, none of the other gay persons witness to the incident felt safe to come forward to Cornwall police.

    Mr Lidbury attended voluntarily the following day to the local Helston police station where he was threatened by police if he (Lidbury) pursued making a complaint regarding the incident, they would prosecute the other gay victim. The gay youth previously abused & targeted by police was just one of the several witnesses who did not feel safe to come forward as a witness due to personal experiences of homophobic police in Cornwall.

    Cornwall police have ALAWAYS refused to identify the police officers responsible for this abuse.

    The police intimidation regarding an alleged (false) rape allegation involving Mr Lealand was most successful in intimidating the victim of assault Mr Lealand into not proceeding against the Helston police officers concerned.

    August 2006, Lidbury was again violently assaulted. The entire assault captured on CCTV, however, once again none of the four other gay witnesses present felt confident in involving Cornwall’s well-known & renowned homophobic police force.

    Lidbury’s complaint of police misconduct lead to two separate Independent Police Complaints Commission 'partial' investigations 2004/2006 resulting in numerous recommendations being made to Devon & Cornwall Constabulary of needed improvement of public service.

    These are some of the FACTS the IPCC DID establish regarding complaint made by a gay person in Cornwall, but NOTHING has been done about these incidents or the catalogue of other Cornwall police abuses highlighted:

    1. A Cornwall police officer lied about a (non-existent) signature in a pocket book. Abuser in the company of PC Tar (Camborne)
    2. Police failed to provide (withheld) legal court documentation. abuse by PC Tar of Camborne
    3. Police failed to return a computer after it had been cleared by police forensics (police kept it for weeks in a lock up garage or similar) abuse by DC Anning
    4. Police did make un-logged (not recorded by police) visits to the family home (these were most intimidating to his elderly mother) abuse by PC Tar & another, also DC Crowe & DS Beckerlegge
    5. kept a gay person on a computer as a suspect AFTER the case had been NFA'd (no further action) abuse by DC Anning
    6. failed to provide food for over 7 hours whilst a suspect was in custody. Abuse by Camborne custody officers
    7. failed to inform a gay suspect weeks after a case had been finalised that there was no further action
    Abuse by DC Anning again


    to be continued....

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    • #3
      ...UTTERLYDESTROYED continued

      8. there was no means to follow recieved mail into Exeter Middlemore police HQ within the internal system of the police headquarters, therfore no quality control on delivery of service

      However the IPCC despite the ESTABLISHED above police abuses admit in their report they did not (bother) to interview fourteen witnesses regarding a catalogue of other complaints made!

      Many aspects & further reported complaints of Cornwall police conduct against gay persons still remain entirely un-investigated. (see:- 25% of official complaints against Devon & Cornwall police officially go uninvestigated/completed)

      These are further complaints regarding Cornwall police conduct the IPCC choose NOT to investigate and still remain buried to the utter frustration and angst of the gay victims of Cornwall police continuing homophobic abuses:-

      1. Failure of ‘Duty of Care’ to a homeless 15yr old teenage gay youth (UNIVESTIGATED) abuse by PC Treloar & PC Fuller of Helston
      2. Attempted blackmail of a teenage gay youth (UNINVESTIGATED) abuse by DC Scott of Camborne
      3. Abuse of a gay teenager in a strip search & botched ‘Stop & Search’ (UNIVESTIGATED) abuse by PC Alexander & another police officer
      4. Seizing of a computer leading to destruction of a gay businesses (UNIVESTIGATED) abuse DC Anning & senior officers
      5. Failure to follow ‘TRUE VISION’ & CPS definition of ‘Homophobic Incident’ following serious physical assault of two gay/bi persons (UNIVESTIGATED) abuse by Three Helston Police Officers
      6. Refusal to take statements from Gay/Bi witnesses (UNIVESTIGATED) abuse by Sgt. Rowe of Helston
      7. Perjury by a police officer in Crown Court (UNINVESTIGATED) abuse by DC Scott of Camborne
      8. Further un-logged visits by police officers to further intimidate complaintents against the police (UNIVESTIGATED) abuse by DC Crowe & DS Beckerlegge
      9. Refusal of a police Sgt. to take a witness statement from an adult gay eyewitness (a founding member of Cornwall's lesbian women's publication OUTBACK was witness to this police refusal) (UNINVESTIGATED) abuse by Sgt Rowe of Helston
      10. Only an 'out' gay person was arrested out of a group of people equaly taking part in lawful activty (No charges were made against the gay person. ( UNINVESTIGATED) abuse by DC Parker who also ignored text msgs from the false accuser ADMITTING it was a false allegation against the gay man & failed to return lawful belongings seised by police

      But that's merely the tip of the corrupt, dishonest & homophobic attitudes & practises common place within the Cornwall police force

      The appointment of three new diversity police officers to the Cornwall police force was an immediate effect of the partially investigated catalogue of complaints made against the Cornwall police by Lidbury (and others also whose complaints have NEVER been investigated).

      In 2007, aspects of Lidbury’s gay life were researched as contribution to a London Drill Hall Theatre stage play,
      ‘A gay man’s guide’.

      In August 2007, Cornwall Police once again arrested Lidbury, just days PRIOR to the Cornwall PRIDE Beach Day. Lidbury was ‘Chair' of the 2007 Cornwall Gay LGBT PRIDE Beach day and the LGBT gathering was put in serious jeopardy of cancellation, contary to the false & misleading information put out by a Cornwall police diversity officer in the media.

      The 2007 Cornwall Gay PRIDE Beach Day steering group, comprising of gay men, gay women & gay youth disbanded after the 2007 PRIDE event out of fear of further Cornwall police reprisals.

      After months on bail, NO criminal charges, NO criminal prosecution & NO conviction resulted towards Lidbury.

      However, during the prolonged period of bail Lidbury attempted suicide due directly & specifically to Cornwall police misconduct & prolonged abuses. He was subjected to repeated vehicle stops & un-logged visits felt to be intended to harass & continue to violate his life as an 'out' gay man and those lives of other residents in his home.

      Plus Police (abuse by DC Parker) choose to ignore:-

      1. There were several eyewitnesses as to the falsehood of the allegation made against Lidbury
      2. There was physical evidence ignored by police
      3. There were TEXT messages from the false accuser ADMITTING it was a false allegation!

      Only Lidbury, an 'OUT' gay male, was targeted & arrested by police, out of a group of several people all taking part equally in lawful activity. Such is the homophobic practises of Cornwall police.

      It is believed the police did not prosecute the false accuser, J Prior, as it would have raised serious issues regarding Cornwall police homophoboic attitudes & practises AGAINST gay persons!

      In 2007;- Lidbury was subjected to an attempted extortion & blackmail attempt by M Pascoe . This was imediately reported to Cornwall police. However, Cornwall police (Sgt. Rowe of Helston) who refused to interview a gay direct eye-witness and dropped the investigation. Despite fresh complaints reported to various authorities, these further complaints along with many other previous complaints against Cornwall police have not been investigated!

      There is some evidence to suggest that Cornwall police themselves (DC Parker) may have instigated the attempted blackmail against Mr Lidbury.

      Sgt. Rowe by his own admission in front of a witness later targeted Mr Lidbury, because Rowe recognised Lidbury as a gay man who had made complaint. Such is the abuse culture still protected within the Cornwall police force.

      Lidbury self-published three autobiographical book memoirs in 2007.

      Mr Hopkins Legacy: - His own childhood.
      NO Carrots in My Pasty: - HIV/AIDS in Cornwall.
      A NO GAY ZONE: - Cornwall Police and other Homophobia?

      These and several other books & Art prints by Lidbury are available

      In Dec 2007
      :- Lidbury was voted 3rd in 'Queerwest' 'Person of Gay Influence in the Southwest'. An online lgbt news publication run by editor Craig Denney.

      In June 2008:- Lidbury was contacted by the National Audit Office to give witness evidence for an investigation regarding the effectiveness of the Independent Police Complaints Commission.

      Lidbury believes that gay people should consider very carefully before making a formal complaint against the police to the IPCC.(Independent Police Complaints Commission)

      "In our experience an already victimised gay person can find themselves further abused & violated by the ineffectiveness and bias of the IPCC towards & in favour of the police and further intimidated and victimised by the police. That is our experience".
      said Lidbury in 2007 (and still my opinion in 2009)

      In June 2008:- Lidbury submitted evidence to a Human Rights Enquiry into institutional breaches of Human Rights.

      This included his personal blog http://www.pinkpasty.blogspot.com/ which raises awareness of the continuing widespread problem & numerous instances of continuing institututional homophobic attitudes & practises against gay persons in Cornwall, UK. Devon & Cornwall Constabulary then threatened in writing prosecution, unless Lidbury removed the blog, destroying the evidence he submitted to the HRE.

      This was the 2nd time Cornwall police had tried intimidation to cover up their abuses by threatening legal action against him for making public, his and other Cornwall gay persons experiences of homophobia carried out by the Cornwall police force.

      In 2008:- it was made clear that Mr Lidbury & other gay persons who had made complaint of police homophobic conduct & practises were NOT welcome at a Cornwall 'pride' event, in which Cornwall police were taking a very visible involvement.

      2008: There were four known gay male suicides in Cornwall this year. Cornwall police even tried to prosecute the corpse of one gay male suicide victim...twenty days after he the victim had taken his own life after being arrested by Cornwall police.

      Year leading up to March 2008:- A request under the Freedom of Information Act revealed that there were over 1,200+ official complaints made AGAINST Devon & Cornwall Constabulary in that year. The 3rd highest of the 42 police forces in the UK.

      Disgustingly, almost 25% of theses OFFICIAL complaints not investigated, or were buried or never finalised by the Devon & Cornwall police. Many of these complaints from LGBT persons. Further indication of the depth & level of continuing corruption & homophobic attitudes within Devon & Cornwall Constabulary under the command of Chief Constable Steven Otter.

      January 2009:- Over 1 MILLION views had been made of Malcolm Lidbury's videos on Youtube raising awareness of the continuing problem of harboured & protected homophobic attitudes & practises still prevelent within the Cornwall authorities: in particular the HOMOPHOBIC Cornwall police force.

      Jan 2009:- Lidbury recieved a letter of thanks from Dame Nuala O'Loan DBE, chair of the British Equality & Human Rights Commission, for Lidbury's written & verbal evidence to the UK governments enquiry into Human Rights in 2008.


      to be continued.....

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      • #4
        UTTERLYDESTROYED continued...

        Most of Lidbury's evidence & more than five hour interview with the Criminal Research Dept. Kings College consisted of lists of abusive conduct, practises & attitudes from within the authorities of Cornwall, UK against gay people.

        In particular, homophobic abuses & abusive attitudes & practises carried out from within Cornwall Police & Cornwall County Council.

        Malcolm Lidbury:-

        "Forget hoodie wearing youth, the single most likely person to intimidate, traumatise, violate, abuse and adversely affect the life of a gay person in Cornwall

        ...is still likely to be a Cornwall police officer".


        Lidbury continues to run an LGBT blog http://www.pinkpasty.blogspot.com/
        and also a gay themed youtube channel www.youtube.com/thepinkpasty

        email;- m.lidbury@tesco.net

        There is nothing in the above I, Malcolm Lidbury, would not testify as being a true account in a Court of law.


        Well there you have it, if you have read that lot I do not think you will ever doubt that there is a serious & genuine problem within the police force in the UK regards gay people.

        hugz x Utterlydestroyed

        aka Pinkpasty
        aka Malcolm Lidbury

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        • #5
          Blimey UD - you must be a lot lighter now you've got that off your chest!
          And God promised men that good and obedient wives would be found in all corners of the world. Then made the world round .... and laughed and laughed and laughed ..

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          • #6
            Thank you RFLH, so good to see you still here fighting the good fight!

            I'm pretty good at a healthy rant!

            I just felt it was important to demonstrate the depth and degree some of us have experienced gross abuses by the UK police due to homohobic prejudice combined with abuse of false allegation.

            Hugz x

            UD/PP

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            • #7
              Love the Avatar, UD!

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              • #8
                not yours Rights Fighter!
                And God promised men that good and obedient wives would be found in all corners of the world. Then made the world round .... and laughed and laughed and laughed ..

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                • #9
                  What's wrong with my avatar Missus??!!!
                  People Appealing Convictions of Sexual Offences ~http://www.pacso.co.uk

                  PAFAA details ~ https://pacso.co.uk/pafaa-people-aga...ions-of-abuse/

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                  • #10
                    nothing wrong with thatv m'dear - I removed your post which asked a question of the removed post by another poster (I think I wrote that right!).
                    And God promised men that good and obedient wives would be found in all corners of the world. Then made the world round .... and laughed and laughed and laughed ..

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                    • #11
                      You mean the person who posted up something about UD that he could not substantiate?

                      I had a good firk around and could find nothing about him (UD) under his real name that supported what the new poster said....

                      That poster seems to have some sort of vendetta against UD as he has posted the same stuff on the internet all over the place.....
                      People Appealing Convictions of Sexual Offences ~http://www.pacso.co.uk

                      PAFAA details ~ https://pacso.co.uk/pafaa-people-aga...ions-of-abuse/

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                      • #12
                        That's the one. Just plain nasty.


                        I was told - if you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all.
                        And God promised men that good and obedient wives would be found in all corners of the world. Then made the world round .... and laughed and laughed and laughed ..

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                        • #13
                          Regardless of whether it was true or not, I wouldn't want to have those kind of comments written about me.
                          A conviction means nothing; it's just the decision of a dozen idiots, but the subject matter is insulting. Especially as I know that term isn't used to describe the allegation, but as an insult with the express intention of inciting others.

                          Lucky RFLH deleted the message from the thread and infracted him, as I was in the frame of mind to ban him myself.

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                          • #14
                            In fact, I have placed him on Mod Approval. I can't have people coming in and doing this sort of thing.

                            "Regardless of whether it was true or not, I wouldn't want to have those kind of comments written about me.

                            A conviction means nothing; it's just the decision of a dozen idiots, but the subject matter is insulting. Especially as I know that term isn't used to describe the allegation, but as an insult with the express intention of inciting others.

                            If you have been falsely accused and wrongly convicted of such an allegation, then you'll have some idea why it is impossible to get a fair trial when juries are wrongly influenced by your kind of comments. Perhaps you'll also give some thought to the fact that getting a conviction overturned is a very very slim chance indeed, no matter how much evidence you have.
                            Making it crucial to have an un-prejudiced jury in the first place.
                            Have a think.
                            LS"

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                            • #15
                              The OP claimed that he had "admitted" that he was a paedophile. Well we don't know that and there was absolutely no evidence to support what he said in any event. I know I took some time yesterday to source something and ll there was, was what the OP claimed.

                              There was no evidence of anything that the OP claimed. I found him on Facebook though so should he try doing it again elsewhere maybe UD might like to have hi prosecuted for incitement to violence/hatred.......
                              People Appealing Convictions of Sexual Offences ~http://www.pacso.co.uk

                              PAFAA details ~ https://pacso.co.uk/pafaa-people-aga...ions-of-abuse/

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