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  • Falsely accused at night club

    I feel for you and your son :/

    This may be different to your stories as this was in a public place.,

    I have just recently 5 weeks ago been arrested for sexual assault I’m 27 years old young man
    I had/have everything going for me tall good looking, good job and good friends ect, on my birthday night on the 25th of July I was in a nightclub upstairs on the dance floor dancing/grinding with a girl my other friends wasn’t present... I can’t remember it in detail as was very drunk but il make the story short I get taken out by bouncers and then later get arrested for putting my hands down her skirt while dancing with her!! Her friend apparently called the police!


    I wake up in the cell day after my birthday!! great !! Get interviewed with out a solicitor as I am sure I’m innocent! I tell them as much as I can remember and that I was dancing with her and having fun and she was ingaging it all and then later on a get removed from the club and arrested, and then they
    Read the witness statement saying I walked behind her and put my hand down her skirt in the middle of the dance floor! Bollox!! Who in there right mind would do that it’s rubbish! I feel like Iv been set up!

    My life feels like it’s on hold and I can’t live my life anymore! I have a solicitor atm making sure the cctv is been kept safe and we have been trying to get a interview with the cctv present for 4 weeks now but no luck so far.

    Sorry to crash the convo but any help would be great thanks.

  • #2
    If there is cctv hopefully that will be able to show what really happened. As to how long it will take for them to look at it and get back to you could be anyone's guess.

    Do not contact the complainant or her friends and don't have any interviews with the police without a solicitor. Find some
    healthy ways of coping with the stress - good diet, exercise, mindfulness, venting here.


    Hope you have some friends and family for support. Being completely straight with you I have to advise you not to get drunk. I know in our culture today that is very difficult but you do put yourself in a dangerous situation when you can't remember what has happened when drunk. Your own health is in danger, you could end up beaten up or robbed. As a mother it has worried me sick when my son has been drunk.

    Hope things do resolve quickly and keep posting if that helps with the stress
    Last edited by carrot tops; 11 September 2018, 07:17 AM.

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    • #3
      Hi carrot tops

      I hope CCTV does cut all the BS out get it dropped quick but I have a feeling it could show nothing,
      And yes il have a solicitor there present if I do attend s second interview.

      I go boxing and the gym which helps a lot and I go out riding on weekends. I have a good friends what understand and a great mum what is there for me which helps a lot.

      I haven’t drunk since I do have a friends birthday approaching but will mostly likely have 1 and drink water.. me being drunk as clouded my memory so I couldn’t remember the full story it’s horrible as I can’t fully defend myself.

      It’s ruined this year for me I just hope it doesn’t ruin next year il keep everyone updated

      Thanks for advice and help.

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      • #4
        Also it’s been 4 weeks since my solicitor last spoke to the police would you suggest to wait or
        Instruct him to get in contact with them and chase there progress.

        Also when they make a decision will my solicitor inform me or will I find out by post. Any help would be great

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        • #5
          If I am correct your solicitor won't be able to do anything unless or until you get charged.

          I think there is a thread here which recommends good solicitors and barristers if you do get charged so you could have a look at that so you're a step ahead if you are charged.

          If there were friends with you it might be helpful if they can write down any recollections of the evening.Sadly things can take a long time getting resolved so you have to pace yourself to cope with this. If you are in work I would hold back on saying anything to your employers at the moment and make sure you are confiding only in people you can really trust.

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          • #6
            So Would you suggest to just get on with your normal life and just let them investigate the offence in there time.

            I have a solicitor at hand but could you send me the link to forum for others as it would be nice to speak to others if I do get charged in the future.

            I just hope the investigation team see sense and looks into the cctv properly and statements.

            My friend who was downstairs has wrote a statement of the night for my Solicitor but he can not really remember to much either.

            I know who my friends are now! It’s actaully made me look at life in a different way and not take things for granted. Iv tried to channel this into a lesson and something I can learn from in the future and mature from and reading this forum helps me with that also.
            Last edited by lifeonhold; 11 September 2018, 11:27 AM.

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            • #7
              If you go to forum on the home page you will see a sticky for specialist solicitors . Sorry, I am a technophobe and can't do links.

              I know when we were looking for a solicitor for our son after he was charged we were able to have a free 20 or 30 minute consultation with the solicitor before deciding to hire him.

              Getting on with your normal life is the best thing possible at this stage

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              • #8
                Here's a link - http://www.daftmoo.org.uk/mooforum/s...ist-solicitors

                And yes, carrot tops is right and her advice is sound - if you can keep your life as 'normal' as possible it will help. I'd also suggest that while you let the police get on with your investigation, you make a note of things that you want an investigation to cover so that, if necessary, you can follow those things up with a solicitor. Hopefully, it won't be necessary, of course, but there's an argument for Sod's Law here. The more you prepare the more likely it is that the preparations are unnecessary.

                Oh, and be sure to ask for some support from your GP if your mental health suffers. There's no shame in it, s/he has probably come across this situation before.

                As for your situation, it's strikingly similar to the situation John Leslie (the TV presenter) found himself in earlier this year. Research him and you might find that the details are a little too close to be realistic.

                One last thing - I'm going to move these last few posts to a thread of their own. There's no real issue with you commenting on this thread, but if I separate the two you each have your own conversation. Hang in there, it's something of a waiting game, I'm afraid.
                'Mongolian Warriors had the courage of lions, the patience of hounds, the prudence of cranes, the long-sightedness of ravens, the wildness of wolves, the passion of fightingcocks, the keenness of cats, the fury of wild boars and the cunning of foxes.' BE A MONGOLIAN WARRIOR WHEN DEFENDING YOUR INNOCENCE!

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                • #9
                  Thanks for both of your advice and guidance,

                  I have no problem it being in its own thread.

                  Thankfully I’m a very strong minded person, & I know I’m a good person and Its something i wouldn’t do that it self is keeping Me going at the moment thankfully,
                  and my friends and familys reassurance also.

                  Il take your advice and write all the things I want them to follow up on ( hopefully never needed ) but it will be there prepared just in case.
                  I have come across that John Leslie case itis very very similar, and he gets not guilty. That’s when I knew it was going to be a long wait.

                  I’m taking Valium at the moment I have been on them the past year it’s realy annoying as I was in the process of coming off them and this happens! So straight back on them !

                  One question I would like to ask which bothers me the most is say I was found guilty in court could I stop my name being published on the media do I have any control over that?

                  Prison I could deal with but not that!
                  Last edited by lifeonhold; 11 September 2018, 08:14 PM.

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                  • #10
                    I'm glad to you that you are feeling strong mentally. Strictly speaking, John Leslie got a 'not proven' verdict, an option available in Scotland where he was tried, but from your point of view that's a minor detail - he wasn't convicted. :-)

                    As far as finding your name in the press if things go that way, there's nothing to stop it unfortunately, but realistically, few cases get reported and they're usually ones that have some kind of special interest. It would have to be very high profile with identifying details for the complainant for a judge to order no reporting too. However, please don't fret about that for now. That's a long way down the road, and even if it becomes a more pressing worry, honestly, unless you're well known and have a public reputation to defend, today's newspaper is tomorrow's chip wrapping, if you get my meaning. People's memories are very short unless there's some sort of neighbour feud going on or something of that nature.

                    Baby steps, baby steps.
                    'Mongolian Warriors had the courage of lions, the patience of hounds, the prudence of cranes, the long-sightedness of ravens, the wildness of wolves, the passion of fightingcocks, the keenness of cats, the fury of wild boars and the cunning of foxes.' BE A MONGOLIAN WARRIOR WHEN DEFENDING YOUR INNOCENCE!

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                    • #11
                      I’m surprised myself!
                      My thought prosess is let’s save the worrying for if I’m ever charged, saying that it’s also a chance to clear my name.
                      But unfortunately for me I don’t have much memory of the night but there’s CCTV and professional photos of the night so it evens out I guess.

                      My second name is very rare I’m basically the only person with it so it beingon google would be hard.
                      I understand your point I live in Milton Keynes which isn’t a big place, I’m slightly well known but at end of the day after a couple days it’s forgotten about and aslong as the people I care about know my story that’s what matters.
                      I’m looking at moving up to Manchester where my parents are in the next couple years that was the intial Plan.

                      Just one last thing has there been cases Were nobody heard anything atall and the police never gave out NFAs or charges and the person is left in the unknown ? and would you suggest to ask for a answer say after 6-8 months for example?

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                      • #12
                        I understand the name issue and people have all sorts of reasons for wanting to keep a low profile. It's human nature and common sense. Rape is the worst thing that any man could be accused of, I think. I imagine this will be long behind you before any planned move to Manchester, which is a huge place and that will help.

                        In my experience, I've only heard of one case where the police 'forgot' to tell the the accused that he case had been dropped, apart from another very high profile one. If you've been 'released under investigation' there's no reason why you shouldn't ask for an update every so often, though most experts recommend no more frequently than once a month. Waiting 6-8 months initially sounds like a good plan. The average investigation seems to take 8-9 months though that's offset by some cases being resolved very quickly and others taking much longer. If you were bailed, the bail dates keep a closer tag on things as they have to let you know if you have been re-bailed.
                        'Mongolian Warriors had the courage of lions, the patience of hounds, the prudence of cranes, the long-sightedness of ravens, the wildness of wolves, the passion of fightingcocks, the keenness of cats, the fury of wild boars and the cunning of foxes.' BE A MONGOLIAN WARRIOR WHEN DEFENDING YOUR INNOCENCE!

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                        • #13
                          It is a thing for me I don’t want to tarnish the family name, luckily I’m not been acussed of the rape and its sexual assault its a milder wordthan rape! ‘Still bad of course’ I hate the word ‘rape’ makes my skin crawl.

                          Okay I’m going to let them do there job and if I haven’t heard anything by late November i will instruct my solicitor to chase them up and get a update. I could wait 6-8 months but quite frankly I’m going to want to know something earlier if I have the power.

                          Thank you very much for your help and guidance your a very wise woman. Il update on here when I get any news ( I pray it to be good ) Take care both of you

                          Thanks 

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                          • #14
                            I don't blame you for wanting to know sooner rather than later.

                            Thank you for the kind words. I tend to think that I'm just old with lots of experience that I'd rather not have. I'm glad to pass it on though and hope it helps. :-) Do, please, let us know how you get one and be sure to look to the forum for support if you need it at any time.

                            Best wishes.
                            'Mongolian Warriors had the courage of lions, the patience of hounds, the prudence of cranes, the long-sightedness of ravens, the wildness of wolves, the passion of fightingcocks, the keenness of cats, the fury of wild boars and the cunning of foxes.' BE A MONGOLIAN WARRIOR WHEN DEFENDING YOUR INNOCENCE!

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                            • #15
                              Finally got NFA

                              Just a update,

                              Got a NFA last week so relieved!! Been a long old year of emotion

                              I got a call on 24th of July the day before my birthday and day before I left for my holiday!
                              From the OIC she said she wanted me in for a second interview.

                              I attended 1 week later with my sol and said no comment from his advice. I found out after the interview that the police had lost the CCTV, but my Sol asked for it be retained after the first week.
                              To cut the long story short it was passed on to the CPS and within a week I got a NFA because the police messed up or didn’t do there job properly.

                              My life is back to normal now. But still remember them times of doom.

                              Thank you for your help.

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