set-up

[frieldnsfrl]

hi, i met my partner in 2002, by the Nov we were engaged and in the February the nightmare began. His ex-wife disowned his son of which he had had no contact for 8 years. The next three years were manipulating torture games on him from his ex and children till his daughter accused him of an offence after being denied the request to come and live with us and stay a further night with her 14 year old boyfriend. His plea was not guilty untill the solicitor adviced him and myself that we could not take the individual through a trial. He would get credit for avoiding a trial and requested i offered a compensation of £10,000. i went berserk, this was suicide but he assured us that he could appeal on his plea to avoid the stress on the girl. This we learn to the dangers of plea bargaining was not the case. He got ten years and the solicitor appealed on his sentence and not his plea bargain. we are now searchin to appeal on this conviction as the police informed me the forensic investigation of the scene showed it did not happen. The solicitor still encouraged the guilty plea and it is crazy. His requests to get phone texts sent to him were ignored and were never collected. His son sent a text to me stating that he played no part in sendining him down and if he'd only listened to him it wouldn't have gone this far. They are out of his life now but it is hard being seperated. Hopefully the new solicitor we have now will sort this mess out. In the meantime I have good days and bad days but they have gone out of our life now and will never be part of it.

[Rights Fighter]

Plea bargains (guilty pleas) are almost impossible to appeal. Obviously you cannot put down the finer details on here as this is a public forum.

I can't understand why he requested certain evidence if he admitted to it (albeit he says it never happened). Did you pay the "compensation?" If you did then that in itself would serve as an "admission of guilt" as far as the Courts of Appeal are concerned.

You said:

the police informed me the forensic investigation of the scene showed it did not happen.

How did the police inform you? By word of mouth? They would deny that. On the face of it I can't see how this can be appealed.

[frieldnsfrl]

Plea bargains (guilty pleas) are almost impossible to appeal. Obviously you cannot put down the finer details on here as this is a public forum.

I can't understand why he requested certain evidence if he admitted to it (albeit he says it never happened). Did you pay the "compensation?" If you did then that in itself would serve as an "admission of guilt" as far as the Courts of Appeal are concerned.

You said:



How did the police inform you? By word of mouth? They would deny that. On the face of it I can't see how this can be appealed. Sorry to dampen your enthusiasm by the way!

they spoke with me and requested a statement of the ex and childrens behaviour over the last few years. they stated it was a powerfull statement but he should have gone to trial. No compensation was given. The solicitor assured me that the appeal on his plea was a good route to take for this case.. It wasn't and my partner knows that now but it happens and he was devastated at the time and not very strong. He will clear his name one day but it is definately not an option. Plea bargaining in innocence is not a route to take. A trial is the only way. to all those in this predicament don't plead guilty to prevent the trial on the individual, think of yourself and the fight you will have after . It is harder and the solicitor may make it sound easy but its a tough road to freedom.

[frieldnsfrl]

Plea bargains (guilty pleas) are almost impossible to appeal. Obviously you cannot put down the finer details on here as this is a public forum.

I can't understand why he requested certain evidence if he admitted to it (albeit he says it never happened). Did you pay the "compensation?" If you did then that in itself would serve as an "admission of guilt" as far as the Courts of Appeal are concerned.

You said:

How did the police inform you? By word of mouth? They would deny that. On the face of it I can't see how this can be appealed.

there were messages from the girl wanting her dad to send a taxi to pick her up to come back the following night. she requested six times throughout the afternoon for the taxi to pick her up. hence she'd accused him of an assault the night before after discussions of wanting to come and live with him. phone calls and texts requesting him to go through to do jobs after the allegation, It is clear to me what they have done but it is too complicated to ellaborate and simply plea bargaining once you've done it you'll know you've made a mistake. There are plenty out there in the same boat but it is hard to understand why individuals take this option, it is a trust that the solicitor will get you out of it but the facts are its the clients place to direct the solicitor we learn. after the sentence was given the girl stalked the home and drove by the home laughing in hysterics. She lives 20 miles away. I find it all ludicrous but it happened and he is innocent.

[frieldnsfrl]

He never sdmitted to the accusation and maintains his innocence now of which in my heart of hearts believe. A laughing victim is not that of a victim of an alleged incident but what goes around does in the end does come around as they say. He knew after he had made a mistake with this pleas bargain but he was withdrawing from an addicion and self awareness and relaization of im[lications were not a thought. He thought the solicitor was acting in his best interests. So wrong.

Plea bargains (guilty pleas) are almost impossible to appeal. Obviously you cannot put down the finer details on here as this is a public forum.

I can't understand why he requested certain evidence if he admitted to it (albeit he says it never happened). Did you pay the "compensation?" If you did then that in itself would serve as an "admission of guilt" as far as the Courts of Appeal are concerned.

You said:

How did the police inform you? By word of mouth? They would deny that. On the face of it I can't see how this can be appealed.