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    our son is about to be falsely accused of rape.The accuser, his ex fiance out of the blue said 3 months ago on his birthday he came to her house,both had lots of drinks and raped her...this came as a shock because since the night in question,3 days later she was out on the town with him,,,as she has done many times in last three months,,,he has stayed over night at her house,she has been many times to our house,taken him in her car every where.The reason they split was because she was overly jealous and possesive.Even since they split last xmas she has still been obsessed with him hoping to get him back.A month or so a go he finally lost his patience and told her to leave him alone and he,ll never get back with her.Since this she has become more depressed and now this accusation.When they split she threadened to kill herself less he came back and totally cut her arms to shreds with a broken glass.Now we have no idea about rape except from news and tv etc..but can any body please advice whether this girls behaviour is normal for a rape victim.Would a girl who,s been raped then go dancin and partying with the person who supposed to have raped her,have him stay over at her house,put herself in a position where it could happen again...please can some one help.

    ps..sorry for grammer etc but am actually shaking whilst typing..
    Last edited by karl; 6 December 2007, 01:30 AM. Reason: forgot to add

  • #2
    Hi Karl

    I have private messaged you for further info. I can't see this matter going anywhere but it's always a good idea to get an experienced solicitor on board.
    People Appealing Convictions of Sexual Offences ~http://www.pacso.co.uk

    PAFAA details ~ https://pacso.co.uk/pafaa-people-aga...ions-of-abuse/

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    • #3
      Yes. That can be normal behaviour. When a woman is raped by someone they know it can be difficult emotionally to accept it. It might sound wierd to someone else to stay with someone who has raped them but it is possible and is actually quite common. It certainly shouldn't be your reasoning for thinking she is lying. Only your son and her know what the truth is.

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      • #4
        Take a deep breath and try to remain calm.

        Your support & love for your son is what will really help him and you get through this.

        Big Hugz

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        • #5
          thanks for the comments..they mean so much..

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          • #6
            I hope you contacted the solicitor I recommended. He told me that you aren't too far away and would be happy to assist. He is highly experienced in dealing false allegations of abuse.
            People Appealing Convictions of Sexual Offences ~http://www.pacso.co.uk

            PAFAA details ~ https://pacso.co.uk/pafaa-people-aga...ions-of-abuse/

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            • #7
              Hi Karl

              Always sad to welcome someone else who understands the horror of a loved one being falsely accused.

              What is "normal" behaviour for a rape victim varies hugely, particularly in the eyes of the law. my husband was initially accused of rape, and then convicted of indecent assault: after forensics proved intercourse hadn't taken place, his accuser changed her mind! after he was convicted, she spread these lies:
              that he had actually been convicted of rape (it was indecent assault)
              that he was serving a 5 year sentence (it was 12 months)
              that it had "come out" in court that he had previously raped another girl, but there had been insufficient evidence to "make it stick" (nonsense, i was present throughout the trial and this NEVER happened!
              that i had left him. Strange, considering our second baby was born last year.

              but apparently, this is not grounds for appeal, as it could be explained as a rational response to her "trauma".

              so I urge you to take Rights Fighter's advice, and contact that solicitor. In our naivety, we stuck with the duty solicitor, believing that the truth would be believed, but it wasn't.

              good luck.

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              • #8
                Your story of the accuser changing the true facts of the actual case is interesting. An appeal can succeed where there is clear further (later) evidence of a complainant's unreliability. Keep your ear to the ground Saffron and rack up all this evidence of inconsistencies. I've got a case ongoing at CA (Court of Appeal) where the supporting arguments (not grounds) are evidence of unreliability of the complainant, after she went to the press after conviction then sold her story to Take a Break magazine, a good deal of what she said to both differed from what she said at trial. Also what she told the newspaper was different to Take a Break. She has tried to get onto the Trisha Show so if they allow it, what she tells them should be interesting!

                Most of her family don't believe the allegations and I think that what she's doing is trying to "prove it" by putting it in print and on TV. It won't work of course - they still won't believe her and further the few that did have noticed the discrepancies.

                So don't give up hope just yet Saffron. If this case succeeds you might be able to use it as a precedent.
                People Appealing Convictions of Sexual Offences ~http://www.pacso.co.uk

                PAFAA details ~ https://pacso.co.uk/pafaa-people-aga...ions-of-abuse/

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                • #9
                  thanks saffron...as she has now gone to the police we can start this long road nowing all is not lost and there is hope...thanks for your support..everyone

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                  • #10
                    I can't emphasise enough how important it is to have a solicitor who is experienced in these matters - I do hope you use the one I recommended.

                    He and Maggie Jervis (who was part of BFMS - British False Memory Society - have written an article for the prisoners own newspaper - Inside Time:

                    http://www.insidetime.org/articleview.asp?article=10

                    It makes interesting reading
                    Last edited by Rights Fighter; 8 December 2007, 02:33 PM.
                    People Appealing Convictions of Sexual Offences ~http://www.pacso.co.uk

                    PAFAA details ~ https://pacso.co.uk/pafaa-people-aga...ions-of-abuse/

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                    • #11
                      yes phoned him straight away thanks..

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                      • #12
                        That's great. He is such a nice guy and will do his best for your son - if this ridiculous mess goes to trial. Hope you mentioned me!
                        People Appealing Convictions of Sexual Offences ~http://www.pacso.co.uk

                        PAFAA details ~ https://pacso.co.uk/pafaa-people-aga...ions-of-abuse/

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                        • #13
                          thanks...yes i mentioned you ..and you have our thanks..you have helped a tremendous amount,,you are appreciated..thank you so much

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                          • #14
                            Karl, so sorry for what your whole family are going through - the same happened to my son but thank God after 7.5 months the matter was dropped. The damage that has been done to my family has been horrendous and I would not wish it on my worst enemy. Can't give any advice except to hold on tight till the nightmare ride stops.

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                            • #15
                              It is one of the best kept secrets by the police, newspapers and judicary.

                              The sheer misery and hell, falsely accused, their families, and friends go through. Whilst those who make false allegation walk away completely SCOT free.

                              The trouble is the police (in our case) were so corrupt & dishonest to start with they could/would not prosecute the false accuser (even if the whole thing had been caught on video), because it would expose the abysmal & homophobic way in which police conducted themselves.

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