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**Rights Fighter** · 5 December 2016, 11:46 AM

Nobody goes to prison for ten years for simply touching somebody's leg.

You really do need to look for a solicitor who is experienced in such matters.

You can look for people who have recommended representation, here.

If this is legally aided then you would need to find one local to where any potential trial might be.

http://www.daftmoo.org.uk/mooforum/s...ist-solicitors

**Casehardened** · 5 December 2016, 01:04 PM

It's not entirely clear from your post whether the police/CPS are still investigating the allegation or whether you have been charged (though I note from your other post that you are presently on bail)

If you have been charged, what was the charge?

This information will help members to offer relevant advice......

**scotty** · 5 December 2016, 01:31 PM

i was bailed and rebailed over and over now it has been passed to the cps as they have decided there is enuff evidence to put it to decision to go to crown court so now i have to wait about 10 weeks january febuary time for a decision if i go to crown court

i dont know what the punishment is if they manage to find an inocent person guilty in crown i have never had any convictions other than driving offence and i fear that i could go to jail and only things i see online is jail time all the time for people

**terrifieddad** · 5 December 2016, 02:17 PM

The offence of sexual assault covers everything from touching over clothing and kissing right up to everything short of penetration. Then you get sexual assault by penetration, and rape if the object used to penetrate the mouth, vagina or anus is an actual penis. Lower level offences can be heard in the magistrates court with only short custodial sentences possible - usually suspended or community service sentences. This usually covers touching over clothing and kissing. Where the assault is under clothing or otherwise naked flesh, sentences tend to be months - up to a year or two in custody. When you get to sexual assault by penetration or rape, the minimum is 4 years custody up to a maximum of life. Only the most serious rapists get life - usually serial and multiple offenders or more extreme aggravating factors. As an example, for three counts of alleged rape of my wife, my likely sentence would be around 10 years

**scotty** · 5 December 2016, 02:36 PM

the case is sexual assault against a vulnerable girl an 18 year old with altsimers autism etc etc etc shes a mess she wears a nappy pisses n ****s herself all the time etc etc the lass that was caught out for cheating is her carer she twisted her into making the accusation for her so its made more serious the acusation is i hit her on her back went under her top played with tits and went down her nappy and played with her absolute discusting filth of an accusation

**Casehardened** · 5 December 2016, 03:12 PM

Originally posted by Casehardened View Post

It's not entirely clear from your post whether the police/CPS are still investigating the allegation or whether you have been charged (though I note from your other post that you are presently on bail)

If you have been charged, what was the charge?

This information will help members to offer relevant advice......

Originally posted by scotty View Post

i was bailed and rebailed over and over now it has been passed to the cps as they have decided there is enuff evidence to put it to decision to go to crown court so now i have to wait about 10 weeks january febuary time for a decision if i go to crown court

i dont know what the punishment is if they manage to find an inocent person guilty in crown i have never had any convictions other than driving offence and i fear that i could go to jail and only things i see online is jail time all the time for people

It seems like you have not yet been charged and the CPS have still to decide how to proceed.

I'm fairly certain that the case can't be taken to court simply on what the girl's carer has alleged; do you know if the girl herself was interviewed by the police?

**scotty** · 5 December 2016, 03:36 PM

its the special girl that has made the accusation her statements etc the carer spent 2 month twisting her to her will to do this against me for her and aparently this girl with her conditions by medical reports is incapable of lying apafrently !! human being un able to lie ?? very odd

**Rights Fighter** · 5 December 2016, 03:57 PM

OK Scotty - we are talking via PM on Facebook - just so you know that this is me.

Keep posting here and soon others will come in to support you too.

You have done the right thing by joining this group, because now you know you are not alone and that this happens to lots of other people.

**TBG1** · 5 December 2016, 09:42 PM

I'm truly sorry that you find yourself here Scotty, but welcome nonetheless.

I have very little doubt that you're frightened and very, very angry. But firstly, please may I ask you to think about what you post and how you post it.....You are amongst people here that are extremely familiar (unfortunately) with your type of situation and ALL will try to help you.

But I have taken a while to respond because the way you have articulated your plight is a little offensive in my opinion. I accept that I may be a "prude", but because we all know how being falsely accused makes us feel I really don't think it's necessary to emphasise your point by (apparently) making fun of disadvantaged people.

Having said that, I accept that it's probably because this person has falsely accused you that your posts are angrily directed at those with physical and/or mental problems.

I apologise if I have completely misread your messages, but I think it is important that somebody points out that a defence of "Why would I touch someone like that" won't be too effective. IF....I repeat - IF you have to defend yourself against a false accusation in court, then I'm afraid it becomes a bit of a popularity contest (with the jury) and saying that the accuser is a 'pant-p***ing, nappy-wearing freak' isn't going to win you any points.

So anyway, the answer to your question is of course, Yes. Sadly, there are members here who have been charged with little or nothing. It's important to know though that this in no way means you are more (or less) likely to be charged.

Please remember, that in order to be charged the CPS have to feel that a successful conviction is the more likely outcome. If they feel that it isn't then they should decline to charge.

Either way, from your account you seem to have a clear and valid set of reasons to be able to defend the accusation....besides the fact that it is false. Please take comfort from the fact that you have a clear memory of the time in question and as such (if it is ever necessary) you will be able to speak up against them with confidence.

Again, I apologise for "pulling you up" earlier in my post but I do think that it is easier (and better) to advise people truthfully rather than the simple "arm round you" approach.

Please keep posting - You will get support here. From a great many good people. Including me.

Best Wishes

TBG1

**Rights Fighter** · 6 December 2016, 10:27 AM

You are absolutely right TBG1. I was a little alarmed at the way he expressed himself.

I think he is completely terrified at the moment.

Scotty, you really do need to just explain what happened (which you have done) but in your future posts maybe just keep to the facts? I know it is VERY tempting to show outrage in here, but remember that others are going through this and have gone through it already. They are scared and in pain too.

It's nice to be polite

**Ladyscot** · 6 December 2016, 07:56 PM

I too was offended by the way you described the young woman. Also think its pretty disgusting that you and the 'carer' left the young vulnerable woman downstairs whilst youre upstairs having sex. Who behaves like that? No one i know or would want to know.

You're saying you hate cheaters all high and mighty on the moral high ground - but you dont mind shagging carers whilst leaving their vulnerable patients downstairs in a strangers house?

Maybe this is karma

**Silver** · 7 December 2016, 12:10 AM

Hi Scotty

Please heed what the other people on the site are advising.

You seem to be a very straight to the point honest kinda person. However as others have said, most people and am sure most of the professional dealing with your case are more conservative about their views on sex.

Try to avoid saying" you went up to the bedroom to have sex",and referring to the" vulnerable girl" as "special girl",it would be better if you called her a "vernable girl".I assume when the police questioned you called her by her name

Perhaps you could state, while (girls name)wanted to watch a tv programme downstairs, you and your friend wanted some time alone upstairs. (Then it is up to the police to enquire as to what went on)

any way all the best to you .xx

**Rights Fighter** · 8 December 2016, 10:22 AM

Originally posted by Silver View Post

Hi Scotty

..............

Try to avoid saying" you went up to the bedroom to have sex",and referring to the" vulnerable girl" as "special girl",it would be better if you called her a "vernable girl".I assume when the police questioned you called her by her name

Perhaps you could state, while (girls name)wanted to watch a tv programme downstairs, you and your friend wanted some time alone upstairs. (Then it is up to the police to enquire as to what went on)

any way all the best to you .xx

Above all else, be honest.

**Bene** · 11 December 2016, 08:36 PM

Dear Scotty,

What worries me, is the fact that, you were more concerned with this woman the (career ) having a boyfriend. Than you were with her bringing along a very vulnerable patient to a date', and leaving her unsupervised downstairs in a strangers home, whilst she has sex. From what you've described there was already major red flags here that should of raised suspicion to you regarding this woman's character and her lack of moral campus. From what you've said, this career lady sounds like a scumbag) she's certainty someone you don't want to associate you're self with let alone sleep with.

It's quite alarming to me that you didn't see anything wrong with you're or her behaviour. And by the sound of you're posts you still don't.

I can fully understand that this is a hard time for you, you must be feeling very anxious, scared and angry to be in the predicament that you're in. Especially when you don't know how the legal system operates in this U.K. I would be feeling the same if I was in you're shoes,But that's no excuse for the offensive and disgusting comments You've made torwards the vulnerable Young lady. You have to remember that this is an open forum, it's an open invitation for people to make assumptions about you and form an open of you. And to be honest, you've not done the best job in presenting you're self in a good light, in terms of the attitude you've displayed and some of you're language.

And on a final note, the best advice I think anyone can give you. Apart from seeking legal advice, and good legal representation in a form of a solicitor.
I would highly suggest you use this time and experience to evaluate, if you've not done so already, some of the poor decisions you've made. Not to be so trusting, what I've learned is that the devil comes in many shapes forms and sizes. Really use this experience to mature as a man and become more wiser and make better decisions in the future.
And good luck hope it all works out well for you.

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