My Partner Accused of Histrorical Rape

[Tom1958]

Please can you help me

My partner has been charged with histrorical rape and by his sibblings

This happened on the 22nd May - He has subsequently is now off sick with Depression. He will not talk to anyone about this - Our solicitor is trying to get him to come to the office in Hounslow to discuss his defence. He was supposed to go there yesterday - but said he just couldnt go and he is just over come by the whole situation. am at my whitsend at what to- Is there any support groups he or me could join- we managed to get legal aid. However they still want £977 per month this is after our income was re- accesed. I have though been speaking to legal aid solicitor to discuss a payment plan - Does anyone have any advice regards to this .

I know he is Innocent as I have lived with him for 27 years

Tom

[Rights Fighter]

Has he actually signed with this solicitor yet?

I ask as I would always recommend this guy as the first port of call in a legal aid case in your area

http://www.freemanssolicitors.net/si...ile/harvey_fox

I can't understand why the solicitor he has, wants that amount of money each month when it is not he that should be getting it in the first place.

Please take proper advice first.

[Tom1958]

Has he actually signed with this solicitor yet?

I ask as I would always recommend this guy as the first port of call in a legal aid case in your area

http://www.freemanssolicitors.net/si...ile/harvey_fox

I can't understand why the solicitor he has, wants that amount of money each month when it is not he that should be getting it in the first place.

Please take proper advice first.

Thanks for the reply. Yes he is with a solicitor. there other solicitor represnts the legal aid people who are chasing the £977 per month

[Casehardened]

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[Rights Fighter]

Thanks for the reply. Yes he is with a solicitor. there other solicitor represnts the legal aid people who are chasing the £977 per month

OK so why does he owe another solicitor money? Or is this about a different matter?

If it is about the same matter, I've asked a solicitor friend about this who says:

He doesn't have to pay any money to the Solicitor. These are contributions to the Legal Aid Agency. They are payable for 5 months if they are paid on time, so £4,885 in total. This suggests a joint income after tax and housing of at least £23.000 pa. Gross joint income let's guess at £40,000 pa. Higher if has children. Contributions can be reduced by any debts. It's a lot cheaper than paying privately and is also refunded if acquitted with interest.

Followed by

"If he wants he could ask the Solicitor to email him the legal aid and hardship applications lodged and forward to me to check the figures. They may by the sound of it have only sought re-assessment rather than hardship".

[TBG1]

Firstly - Hi Tom .... I'm really sorry to hear that your partner (and yourself) are suffering so terribly.


There is a (private) support group on Facebook - PAFAA - which is populated by people who are or have been in the same situation as you find yourselves. Whilst it isn't "professional" help, you and your partner will find and receive comfort from the group members as well as a lot of practical advice which can prove useful going forward. Perhaps RF can let you know how to join up?


Having said that, you will also find those who post on this forum to be kind and helpful - so please do keep posting.


Please be advised that you are not alone - sadly, this situation is far more common that you might have thought before finding yourself in the middle of it.


There are lots of uncertainties in these horrible situations and you must take much of what you are told as an opinion rather than necessarily a fact. One thing that I'm certain of though is that it will be far more difficult (if not impossible) to get through this with the "right result" unless your partner actively and vigorously participates in his own defence. Please ask him to at least look at the posts on this forum (he need not register or post himself if he doesn't want to) so that he knows that there is hope and that this can be fought "successfully"....There are many, many accounts on here to confirm this.


RF: I think Tom was saying that the £977 is his legal aid contribution .... hopefully he will clarify that next time he posts.


Best Wishes,

TBG1

[Rights Fighter]

Hopefully he will post soon. I am rather concerned here.

[Tom1958]

Thanks for the reply. Yes we were asked to contrubute £977 per month - we received a court order from the county court - so i contacted the solictors and we aggreed to pay £50 per month - since then I have lost my job - so we have gone back to my partners solicitors to ask for the legal aid contrubutions to be re- accessed

I will join the support group on facebook

Tom

[Tom1958]

He was supposed to go to court on the 28th October - but he couldnt go as he got a panic attack, and didnt leave the house- we rang the solictor and the informed the court. luckely the judge was on our side and he was okay about him not attending - However he has to go on the 21st December to Guildford to put his plea in - if he cant go, we have to produce a note from the doctors- We have started doing SKype talks with the solictors to save him going there - he just shakes with fear - On a poistive note the solicitor has asked for his case to be reviewed by the CPS -
I appreate all your comments - i did mention to him that i joined this group, but didnt wanna know

Tom

Firstly - Hi Tom .... I'm really sorry to hear that your partner (and yourself) are suffering so terribly.


There is a (private) support group on Facebook - PAFAA - which is populated by people who are or have been in the same situation as you find yourselves. Whilst it isn't "professional" help, you and your partner will find and receive comfort from the group members as well as a lot of practical advice which can prove useful going forward. Perhaps RF can let you know how to join up?


Having said that, you will also find those who post on this forum to be kind and helpful - so please do keep posting.


Please be advised that you are not alone - sadly, this situation is far more common that you might have thought before finding yourself in the middle of it.


There are lots of uncertainties in these horrible situations and you must take much of what you are told as an opinion rather than necessarily a fact. One thing that I'm certain of though is that it will be far more difficult (if not impossible) to get through this with the "right result" unless your partner actively and vigorously participates in his own defence. Please ask him to at least look at the posts on this forum (he need not register or post himself if he doesn't want to) so that he knows that there is hope and that this can be fought "successfully"....There are many, many accounts on here to confirm this.


RF: I think Tom was saying that the £977 is his legal aid contribution .... hopefully he will clarify that next time he posts.


Best Wishes,

TBG1

[Franticwithworry]

Oh Tom, I do so feel for you and your partner. I remember the look on my man's face when he was first arrested. It brings me to tears now just thinking about it, and your partner and you are suffering so much more.

I'm glad that the judge treated him kindly. Please keep telling him that he is not alone with this problem and that both of you will find support here whenever you need it. Perhaps, in time, he will be able to use this forum himself, but in the meantime you can relay things to him.

It's a horrible, horrible place to be, but please reassure him that his worst fears are not a foregone conclusion. There are lots of people who come out the other side of this with the authorities reaching the correct conclusion.

Does he have help from his doctor yet? Another thing for him to understand is that most GP's are virtually unshockable and it's unlikely that his doctor hasn't come across this before. In any event, it's his job to treat your partner's mental health. He clearly needs help before he can start to deal with and recover from this trauma. Make no mistake, it's a brain-altering trauma, and I say that not to frighten you, but to impress upon you that, given your partners paralysing panic, it's something that needs medical intervention.

Your poor partner seems stick in the flight part of fight or flight panic.

That said, if he gets medical help to actually get to the first hearing, there's every chance, odd as it sounds, that he will feel very much better when he knows exactly what he's dealing with and can start building his defence. It's imperative that he does so. The solicitor can't help him without having information to work with, and it's great to hear that the are willing to Skype with him.

But baby steps - one thing at a time, eh? It's a while til the next hearing, so pop back here as often as you need and I hope that your partner can manage to get to his GP. There's no shame in asking for help when you need it.

I'm sorry to hear that you lost your job too and I hope it wasn't anything to do with this debacle.

[Tom1958]

The Doctor does know that he is depressed, however he wont discuss this with the Doctor. My partner did allow our solicitor access to his medical records so it possible that he does know- Whats worse is the fact the people are accusing him are his brother and sisters - 8 counts of buggery and indecent assult while my partner was 9 and his brother was 4 2 counts of buggery when my was 15 and his brother was 11 and one count of indecent aasult with is sister Partner was 15 and his sister was 14
After the last Skype meeting with his solicitor we are more hopefull as they are going now for a full dismasll of the case - 8 of the charges will be thrown out as my partner was under age any way- this whole thing hasnt helped with losing my job- they were very understanding but when have this at the back of your mind it hasnt helped
You obsviouly know what we are going through and just sharing with you does help - I have joined the Facebook page - I did look for a face book page before but obsvioslly has to be descreet- group - Next Skype meeting is the 22nd November. hopefully I will report back with some good news

Tom

Oh Tom, I do so feel for you and your partner. I remember the look on my man's face when he was first arrested. It brings me to tears now just thinking about it, and your partner and you are suffering so much more.

I'm glad that the judge treated him kindly. Please keep telling him that he is not alone with this problem and that both of you will find support here whenever you need it. Perhaps, in time, he will be able to use this forum himself, but in the meantime you can relay things to him.

It's a horrible, horrible place to be, but please reassure him that his worst fears are not a foregone conclusion. There are lots of people who come out the other side of this with the authorities reaching the correct conclusion.

Does he have help from his doctor yet? Another thing for him to understand is that most GP's are virtually unshockable and it's unlikely that his doctor hasn't come across this before. In any event, it's his job to treat your partner's mental health. He clearly needs help before he can start to deal with and recover from this trauma. Make no mistake, it's a brain-altering trauma, and I say that not to frighten you, but to impress upon you that, given your partners paralysing panic, it's something that needs medical intervention.

Your poor partner seems stick in the flight part of fight or flight panic.

That said, if he gets medical help to actually get to the first hearing, there's every chance, odd as it sounds, that he will feel very much better when he knows exactly what he's dealing with and can start building his defence. It's imperative that he does so. The solicitor can't help him without having information to work with, and it's great to hear that the are willing to Skype with him.

But baby steps - one thing at a time, eh? It's a while til the next hearing, so pop back here as often as you need and I hope that your partner can manage to get to his GP. There's no shame in asking for help when you need it.

I'm sorry to hear that you lost your job too and I hope it wasn't anything to do with this debacle.

[Franticwithworry]

That he's in touch with his doctor is good to hear. The doctor doesn't really need to know WHY he's so depressed, but he does need to know the depth and effects of the depression - and it seems as though that's in hand. It's encouraging to hear that the solicitor is confident that some of the charges (if not all) will be thrown out too.

It's dreadful to be accused of historical crimes by family, especially when it involves children. Apart from the devastation the complaints cause to the families, wrenching them apart, the authorities seem to have lost all reason when it comes to charging decisions. They must know the law when it comes to children and culpability. I've come to the conclusion that they charge no matter what the complaint in the hope that some people will plead guilty out of fright, regardless of actual guilt, and so boost the conviction rates, especially those who will struggle to fund legal representation.

Cynic I may be, but there we are.

I have everything crossed for a good result for your partner and a speedy return to better health. It's a long, slow road, but there is support here for however long you need it.

for you both.