Please help

[Raiiboii]

Hi all
My name is Ryan, I'm 23 and a gay male (that is relevant)
I have been arrested on suspicion of sexual assault of my ex partner and am due to return on bail on Monday. I have had lots of my clothes seized and DNA taken. I am scared as I have been close to my ex with some of the clothing that was taken, so I am worried about DNA evidence remaining on my clothes and being charged. My ex has reported me for rape before and it was No further actioned, he has reported me a lot of times (maybe 10) for offences I didn't commit but I have nene been to court I have reported him for all of this and the harassment but nothing is done. Since being bailed the officer in charge has taken a statement from my grandmother (who I live with) as I was in bed at home at the time of the accusation. I am scared as the officer in charge had never gone this far before especially to seize my clothes. Do you think it's likely I can be charged and remanded Monday? I am innocent but I suffer with anxiety and I can't cope with the worry :'(

[LondonTeacher]

Hey Raiiboii,

Welcome to the forum. Sorry to hear about the circumstances that brought you here.

I know you are in a dark place right now. Try not to worry.

How long have you been on bail for?

Bail to return to the police station usually have 3-4 possibilities which includes:

(A) Rebailed
( ReInterview
(C) Charged with an offence
(D) No further action

Since bail is on Monday which is 4 days away, your solicitor should have some
Indication of what is likely to happen when you answer bail on Monday.

Some OIC do let the solicitor know what will happen when you answer bail.

Hang in there bud and all the best for Monday xx

[Lucky]

Hey Ryan,

It seems you are going thru a real mental stress point, and that's not surprising. As the bail date gets closer you will find yourself more stressed. From your post it seems you have been here before, and know the process.

It is doubtful, from what you say, that you will be remanded if you are charged. You have been complying so far, and it normally if you are granted bail and there are no further offences, or breaches, you tend to stay on bail.

The DNA evidence isn't the be all and end all of it either, especially as you and the FA have had a relationship.

Speak to your solicitor, or if you're after a specialist in the London/Essex area, speak to the Solicitors in my signature, and see if they can help you.

Hoping for a good result for you buddy. We are all here to offer our support.

[Raiiboii]

Thanks for the reply. I suppose as there is a lot of previous complaints that will come in to it? The disgusting person that has accused me of this has also claimed I urinated on them in an allyway since and contacted them but the police have said there is no evidence of this and are happy I'm keeping to my bail. Surely that must be a good sign? It concerns me though as my ex is good at I.T. And in the past has forged a lot of texts from me etc. As my family have given a statement matching mine for where I was at the time should that help at all? Obviously it is the truth just very scared right now

[Raiiboii]

Also I've been on bail for 6 weeks and they have taken a lot of my clothes, DNA won't be back that quick I assume so it will be re-bail?

[LondonTeacher]

Raiiboii

If you've on my been on bail for 6 weeks then it's likely to be a rebail

Did the police seize your mobile phone and laptop?


If that's the case, the forensic analysis of laptops can take 6 months plus


There's people on this forum whose case was dealt with pretty quickly but there's
Others who had to wait for a year or more before final outcome.

Just be prepared for a long wait.

Sorry to be a downer.

[Raiiboii]

Thanks for the reply and no they only took clothes as my phone is in my current parents name on contract and due to me ex threatening me I knew he would accuse me of something (as I said 10 times so I know his way of working) so made sure my current partner kept my phone until after it had all happened

[Rights Fighter]

I was going to ask if you had lived with the ex, as that would/could explain the DNA on the clothes. People living together, brushing up against eachother, using the same place to dump clothes before getting into bed, wash basket etc can all help with contamination.

If you weren't living with him then I am sure you will be able to give a plausible account as to why his DNA would be on your clothes.

The previous allegations he made against you should go against his account, if he was proved to be lying about that too.

Hold on in there. You could be in for a long wait. Some have waited around two years so no need to think about a solicitor just yet......

[Raiiboii]

Thanks for the reply. My solicitor hasn't heard from the OIC so still concerned. Though the fact I was arrested on suspicion and not charged plus I gave a full interview should account for something right? What generally happens in these cases if it can't be proved 100% the "victim" was raped? It's my word vs his but he is an ex partner so obvious we've had sex in the past.
Just wondered how CPS might see it even if DNA comes back positive as I thought they had to go with beyond any reasonable doubt. And there is no hard proof, e.g CCTV or semen etc as I did not do what I have been accused of

[joe_3178]

One positive thing to say without offering too much hope is that a lot of people do get NFA -in short they do not want to waste time/money on taking cases to trial if the case is not very strong. From the sounds of it there is not a strong case against you so really hoping you get the right result and they decide to drop it.

[Raiiboii]

Thanks for the replies. I have heard from the OIC and I'm being rebailed and don't need to attend Monday. It's not an NFA yet but it does seem to show they really have no evidence at this stage

[Raiiboii]

Only other thing she commented about was further lines of enquiery but obviously wouldn't disclose what those were

[Rights Fighter]

You need to realise that this can take months and months, or even longer. I appreciate that you don't want to know this, but it is how it is, for many.

Keep posting and look on other threads, and comment on those too. That way you will get even more support. Hold on in there.

[slowdown73]

Hi Ryan

I'm really sorry to hear about your situation. It sounds very frightening and scary for you. The fact you have been bailed suggests the Police are conducting their enquires and like others have said, it may take some time before they give you an outcome. The waiting is horrible though but there isn't much you can do. One question I would like to ask is why you think your ex-partner keeps doing this to you? People make false allegations for various reasons but it might be helpful to put together a time line of events which have happened - this could be useful for your defence but hopefully you won't need it. Your ex sounds a very screwed up person. You say your ex has made previous false allegations and also produced false text messages - this may not go in his favour. Do you have any evidence such as copies of these text messages, people who have witnessed him making threats about false accusations etc? I think it's a positive sign that the Police have taken a statement from your grandmother. Usually in these types of cases, the Police are only interested in any evidence which supports the allegation and don't tend to take an impartial view of things.

I am also a gay male and two years ago I had a false allegation made against me by a family member. My accuser had also previously made false allegations against other members of my family. I can understand the anxiety you are going through because it's a horrible thing to be accused of and the Police keep you in the dark which doesn't help. Fortunately, the case against me was dropped and hopefully it will be the same for you.