Arrested on suspicion of digital penetration, they've took everything from me.

[Casehardened]

Just to underline what Wakingnightmare has said, there would be nothing malicious in the police's actions; if you bring fresh evidence forward, they will be duty bound to re-interview the accuser about this; in the same way as if the accuser made fresh allegations against you, they would be duty bound to re-interview you to give you the opportunity to rebut these.

Where the system does fall down of course is that they start from the premise of believing the accuser's statement and disbelieving the defendant's....

Just to put a contrarian viewpoint, if the case got as far as trial, any such evidence should be put in the defence case statement which the prosecution will view in advance of proceedings anyway, if it isn't and an ambush is sprung during the trial this might invite criticism from the judge.

It's a personal judgement call really, and if you have concrete evidence it may be sensible to discuss your course of action with a solicitor (if she kept in contact with you post-allegation this is significant, but if it is just changed sexual behaviour on her part with third parties the prosecution may well explain this away as being a reaction to the resultant stress)

[TotalNightmare]

Something I need to ask as well, the team involved in this is the unity team up in the north west, they are my "Investigating officer" on my bail form.

I feel like I have a lot of evidence to disprove some of the things the accuser has said in her statement, I phoned them up to inform them of such (Did not say ANY specifics) and they said they will phone me back tomorrow when my CIO is in , after checking on here afterwards I noticed that this may be a very bad idea.

They told me they are duty bound to look into all evidence and just want to find out the truth but the forums here seem to portray the police in these instances as quite the opposite of that, I have no solicitor yet (Due to being on police bail with no charge) apart from the duty solicitor (Which I have 0 details for, I am currently in contact with EBR Attridge although I believe they assigned me George Kampanella instead of the expected Gerry I hear a lot about here, any vouches for him from here? He seems experienced but I worry about these things).

I keep feeling like if I just provide more evidence of some form (Character witnesses, witnesses to her flirtatious/intimate behaviour with me/ full on photos of us being intimate with another girl after she stated she would never consent to stuff with us due to her sexual orientation etc etc) that this would be over faster, has anybody got some experience or advice on how to deal with this and whether or not I should provide my evidence to the police considering I have not been charged yet and really wish to just be able to go home.

I did disclose some evidence to the police pre-charge.

The evidence in question was evidence I had specifically mentioned during my interview with the OIC though. Namely, chat logs between a mutual friend of my FA and myself, which supported the narrative I had given at interview. When I was released from the police station the OIC had left a note at the desk requesting I post or e-mail those logs to her, so I did.

After I wrote out my timeline, I came across much, much stronger evidence that discredited my FA's story but I held onto that and did not disclose that to the police.

So depends on the nature of the evidence, but most here advise to hold on to your trump cards.

[Rights Fighter]

Something I need to ask as well, the team involved in this is the unity team up in the north west, they are my "Investigating officer" on my bail form.

I feel like I have a lot of evidence to disprove some of the things the accuser has said in her statement, I phoned them up to inform them of such (Did not say ANY specifics) and they said they will phone me back tomorrow when my CIO is in , after checking on here afterwards I noticed that this may be a very bad idea.

They told me they are duty bound to look into all evidence and just want to find out the truth but the forums here seem to portray the police in these instances as quite the opposite of that, I have no solicitor yet (Due to being on police bail with no charge) apart from the duty solicitor (Which I have 0 details for, I am currently in contact with EBR Attridge although I believe they assigned me George Kampanella instead of the expected Gerry I hear a lot about here, any vouches for him from here? He seems experienced but I worry about these things).

I keep feeling like if I just provide more evidence of some form (Character witnesses, witnesses to her flirtatious/intimate behaviour with me/ full on photos of us being intimate with another girl after she stated she would never consent to stuff with us due to her sexual orientation etc etc) that this would be over faster, has anybody got some experience or advice on how to deal with this and whether or not I should provide my evidence to the police considering I have not been charged yet and really wish to just be able to go home.

Gerry emailed me some time ago to say that he had been promoted and is not taking on any more trials, as far as I know.

Are you a private client or Legal Aid? If LA and any trial in the London area you would be hard stretched to find better than this guy

http://www.freemanssolicitors.net/si...file/paul_legg

If private client, the guy in my signature specialises in all false allegations of sexual abuse cases. He works nationally.

[rockandahardplace]

Anxiety

So it's been a few weeks since I was initially interviewed, my anxiety is through the roof, whether it's a phone call, letter, email, my heart skips whenever one comes that I don't recognize, it's really messing with my head.

A person who I was hoping to use as a witness has blocked me on facebook to be friends with the accuser, which is making me worry even more, as well as this when speaking to the OIC they told me they hadn't listened to my interview yet (a week and a bit ago) but had talked to one of the people I mentioned in my interview (That as far as I'm aware was not mentioned by the accuser.) which makes me worry as to why they'd say they hadn't listened to my interview but still know to contact said person, the person is a friend of the accusers too but I don't see how there's anything they could say against me, I just found it very peculiar.

Has anyone got any experience with if you can find out what the police plan to do before the bail date at all? It's the uncertainty that's killing me, just knowing what to expect would lift a huge burden off me =/ Although at least there is some good news that Gerry from EBR attridge has taken up my case, which I feel is great, but obviously there's not much he can do until the police make their decision so, still in that horrible limbo, it's hard to think about anything else =/

[YearsOfHell]

Hang in there!

Unfortunately, there's not much you can do at this time.
You're so right! It's the uncertainty that's the worst!
My OH was interviewed in February, and after only one rebail but nearly 11 months of waiting he was told NFA.
He saw the OIC going into one of the FAs relatives house during this time and we drove ourselves mad for a while wondering what they were asking her and why!
It's natural to want to know but you may never know what went on during the process.
If there's NFA in the end then you won't get any info.
Only if you're charged will you find out who is involved and what they have said.
Hopefully it won't be a charge!
Stay positive and try not to drive yourself round the twist!
You need to take a "time out" and try and get some perspective.
Not easy I know!!
But try.
Look for the good things in your life, no matter how small they are.
They are there, don't let the negative things overwhelm you.
Be strong, hang in there!
Keep posting and we will try and help!
Big hugs
YoH

[rockandahardplace]

Tomorrow.

So, I've gotten confirmation that my bail is not to be extended anymore. Although the officer assigned to my case tells me she cannot inform me of what is happening tomorrow. I will update tomorrow as this forum has served me well in calming down and not panicking, but I am panicked to higheaven because it's been 9 months since the accusation and the finality of the bail date is coming to fruition. If it was NFA wouldn't they just tell me? Has anyone reading this got any experience for this point?

[surplusyew]

Hey,

I'm sorry that your going through this, I'm on month one of bail for historic sexual abuse of my sister (obviously its not true),

I know what your going through and you need to keep yourself strong,

Good Luck for tomorrow. Its hard to say anything as different police forces have different practises, so it may be an NFA. Its important not to over analyize the situation,

Please do update us either way and good luck,

[rockandahardplace]

Bad news.

So I've been informed by my solicitor today that I'm being charged with the digital penetration charge, and another for sexual assault by touching a breast, something which is shocking and new to me. I feel so angry and let down. Updates will come as and when. Thanks for the info so far everybody.

[YearsOfHell]

So I've been informed by my solicitor today that I'm being charged with the digital penetration charge, and another for sexual assault by touching a breast, something which is shocking and new to me. I feel so angry and let down. Updates will come as and when. Thanks for the info so far everybody.

So sorry to hear this!
This is when you start fighting. It's a shock but you will get some paperwork through, slowly and in dribs and drabs.
That's when you'll see exactly what you're up against.

Please make sure you have a solicitor with experience of these things.
This can't be emphasised enough!
You only get one shot at clearing your name so make sure it's your best shot.

Once youve picked huge holes in the claimants statement you'll feel more confident.
Hang in there.
It's not over!!!
YoH

[Lilyput]

I'm am so so sorry to hear this