On Monday 2nd November at 9pm the BBC are showing a documentary on what is consensual sex and how teenagers perceive what is rape and what's not. There will be scenarios and a panel that will give their views on the subject. It will be interesting to hear the comments on this programme.
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I saw this online earlier
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...l-consent.html
Some people don't like the idea. I will reserve my judgement until I have seen it!People Appealing Convictions of Sexual Offences ~http://www.pacso.co.uk
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Will watch this. I think it's important that the programme is done as tactfully as possible and I do think it is important to talk about the issues of consent . I also feel there should be more media coverage of clearly false allegations and the impact on the lives of those who are falsely accused. Both those who are actually raped and those who are falsely accused of rape are victims.
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First part - no consent in my view. Pestered her until she awoke and she clearly wanted to go to sleep.People Appealing Convictions of Sexual Offences ~http://www.pacso.co.uk
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Originally posted by Rights Fighter View PostFirst part - no consent in my view. Pestered her until she awoke and she clearly wanted to go to sleep.
As for the guy who had been falsely accused saying that he would rather be accused of murder, I agree
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And they've brought in the fact they've had sex before. So what? I doubt that would be admissible. Having had sex with him before doesn't mean he hasn't committed the offence now.
Those "barrister" wigs look like they are out of a joke shop.......People Appealing Convictions of Sexual Offences ~http://www.pacso.co.uk
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Originally posted by Rights Fighter View PostAnd they've brought in the fact they've had sex before. So what? I doubt that would be admissible. Having had sex with him before doesn't mean he hasn't committed the offence now.
Those "barrister" wigs look like they are out of a joke shop.......
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When I saw the first part, I'd already formed the view that he had raped her. She was trying to sleep. He pestered her. She thought that if she lay still he could stop. He didn't. End of.
The text messages he sent to his mate after the incident showed he knew she was not "into it". Not being "into it" means she is not consenting.
The barrister's gowns are wrong too....... wigs out of a joke shop and odd barrister gowns, you'd think they would at least try to get the outfits right!People Appealing Convictions of Sexual Offences ~http://www.pacso.co.uk
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Originally posted by Rights Fighter View PostWhen I saw the first part, I'd already formed the view that he had raped her. She was trying to sleep. He pestered her. She thought that if she lay still he could stop. He didn't. End of.
The text messages he sent to his mate after the incident showed he knew she was not "into it". Not being "into it" means she is not consenting.
The barrister's gowns are wrong too....... wigs out of a joke shop and odd barrister gowns, you'd think they would at least try to get the outfits right!
As for the wigs and gowns, I wouldn't know and I hope I won't find out either!
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I hope you won't either hon. If you do you will get a lot of support.People Appealing Convictions of Sexual Offences ~http://www.pacso.co.uk
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And then we hear the bang of a gavel. Except that gavels do not exist in UK courts.....
I am astonished that some of the women though it was merely "a mistake". The guys were more understanding that this was wrong and at least one said he should serve his sentence. I was surprised that the "automatic 7 year sentence" was magicked out of the thin air. It doesn't work like that.
"Tom" didn't care a carrot that she wasn't "into it" and went ahead and did it anyway. Hopefully anybody who watched this and was into that sort of behaviour has now thought twice about it.
Guilty.Last edited by Rights Fighter; 2 November 2015, 10:17 PM.People Appealing Convictions of Sexual Offences ~http://www.pacso.co.uk
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