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    Hi all,I've been following all your stories for a few months now. Our lives were ruined in June this year. After a lovely day out we came home to a business card from the police asking my husband to get in touch.
    We tried phoning only to be told the detective had finished for the day,about 10 minutes later 2 detectives knocked our door,spoke to my husband alone. They then took him,his phone and his laptop to the local station.
    He,s been accused of inciting a minor,he's on pre charge bail. His original bail date was end of July,they then re bailed him till November,now they've asked him to go to the station tomorrow to "tye up loose ends".
    I don't know what to think now,could they decide to charge or nfa on the same day?

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    Tying up loose ends sounds like a 2nd interview.

    Sounds like what he said in his interview is very different to what complainant's allegations. Probably circumstantial.

    He MUST take a solicitor with him.
    People Appealing Convictions of Sexual Offences ~http://www.pacso.co.uk

    PAFAA details ~ https://pacso.co.uk/pafaa-people-aga...ions-of-abuse/

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Rights Fighter View Post
      Tying up loose ends sounds like a 2nd interview.

      Sounds like what he said in his interview is very different to what complainant's allegations. Probably circumstantial.

      He MUST take a solicitor with him.
      Thanks for your reply,his solicitor is attending with him. I always thought a 2nd interview meant there was new evidence. I really can't understand what "loose ends" there could be,there's no dates no witnesses apart from the complainants who all know each other and 1 of them couldn't ID him. I've lost my job all because of a FA it's unfair. I suppose it's th same for everyone or we wouldn't be on here!!

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      • #4
        We're all on the same road here- it's devastating to say the least.
        We were left second guessing everything in what sounds like a situation similar to yours.

        Hope there's an NFA for you soon.
        They tried to bury us- they didn't know we were seeds

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        • #5
          Originally posted by chicken head View Post
          Thanks for your reply,his solicitor is attending with him. I always thought a 2nd interview meant there was new evidence. I really can't understand what "loose ends" there could be,there's no dates no witnesses apart from the complainants who all know each other and 1 of them couldn't ID him. I've lost my job all because of a FA it's unfair. I suppose it's th same for everyone or we wouldn't be on here!!

          That is my understanding, that they cannot reinterview (if the "suspect" isn't willing) without fresh evidence. A friend of mine who was a duty solicitor told me that, after an ex member on here was worried she would be taken in to be re-interviewed after the tapes didn't work afterwards.

          Apparently my solicitor friend had a client who had been interviewed, nothing wrong with the tapes after in his case, but police wanted him back. She attended with him, asked for disclosure (fresh evidence) and was told that there was none. She refused to allow the interview to proceed. He was NFAd.

          However, in a case where there is a Charge, I'm thinking that refusing to attend a 2nd interview might go against him at trial. Prosecution would challenge him in cross-examination along the lines of:

          "Why did you refuse the 2nd (or 3rd however many) interviews? Had something to hide, did you?"

          They would then bring that into the prosecution closing speech. And the judge may well add to it in his summing up and directions.

          It's a catch-22 situation. At the end of the day it is your decision to make.
          People Appealing Convictions of Sexual Offences ~http://www.pacso.co.uk

          PAFAA details ~ https://pacso.co.uk/pafaa-people-aga...ions-of-abuse/

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          • #6
            Thanks everyone,it was a 2nd interview,they had a further statement from 1 of the complainant,apparently my husband has been driving him around on drug runs now. The dates have changed from 6 months ago to a year ago.
            His phone was completely clean of porn,so the file was given to cps. But..... the cps wouldn't make a decision as the laptop wasn't checked. So now we have to wait again and bail extended another month on top of the outstanding 2.
            So frustrated and angry,why wouldn't they check our laptop at the same time as the phone,why take it if you're not going to check it!!!

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            • #7
              Hi everyone,no news I'm afraid. I'm just wondering peoples opinions on getting a private solicitor sooner rather than waiting to find out about being g charged. Obviously we,'re hoping for a NFA,but his next bail date is close to Xmas,I really don't fancy Xmas alone and worrying.
              Would having a private solicitor help to speed up the cps?
              I feel so down,that even being charged may give some comfort because at least then we,d be able to know exactly what he's supposed to have done and when.
              No dates,no independent witnesses,nothing.
              Many lives ruined.

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              • #8
                As has been said on other threads, it is not necessary to pay privately. Most of the people who were NFAd in these forums had legal aid duty solicitors. Paying a solicitor won't make the CPS work any faster.

                Some of the "celebrity" accused we've seen in the media, have paid out £KKKs and been NFAd. They will never get that money back. They may well have got the same result using a free duty sol.

                One of our members Incredulous, paid solicitor Hilary Doherty. Her son was NFA'd. While there is no way of knowing whether Hilary's input had anything to do with the NFA, she was clearly genuinely caring and sympathetic, which helped Incredulous and her son immensely. You can find her story on here and she has posted up the details for Hilary in the sols/barristers part of the forums.
                People Appealing Convictions of Sexual Offences ~http://www.pacso.co.uk

                PAFAA details ~ https://pacso.co.uk/pafaa-people-aga...ions-of-abuse/

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                • #9
                  Thanks RF, I,'ll have look now.

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                  • #10
                    There was also someone else on here who's son wasn't charged and they had sol. Can't remember their name.

                    Obviously it is difficult to say if it was directly linked to the sol??

                    Prior to my partner being charged, I spoke to numerous reliable solicitors who all said there was nothing that could be done prior to charge.

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                    • #11
                      Thank you cigw,I'm not going to be able to afford a solicitor anyway,I've been told a decent sol can cost £35k plus!!! If he doesn't get a NFA,we really are in deep trouble.
                      Am I right in thinking that even with legal aid,it has to be paid back?
                      Does anyone have experience of this?

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                      • #12
                        If he is found NG he gets his LA back. Or should. However he's not been charged as yet so let's not jump the gun!
                        People Appealing Convictions of Sexual Offences ~http://www.pacso.co.uk

                        PAFAA details ~ https://pacso.co.uk/pafaa-people-aga...ions-of-abuse/

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