Falsely accused and convicted hell

[truthspeaker]

I have no idea if this is the right place to post my personal story. I have felt cheated by the legal system, police, solicitors, CPS and the people.

Falsely accused by a girl who has mental health issues, apparently previous been raped, promiscuous, history of abusive boyfriend, proven in court to be a liar, inconsistent statements and everyone in court laughed at her answers. Also the Officer in Charge was collaborating with her and her witness to say that their statements weren't matched.

It's a long story. A sad story. Because of this whole thing I have lost friends, family, career, all my belongings and my most precious partner.

I'm not here for attention or sympathy. Maybe a solution or what steps to take about making my story known. It's a long story and the whole investigation spanned over two years.
I don't know where to start. I am trying to join multiple forums and find out where I can possibly air this absurd story. If you have the time to read something very long and detailed please say so. I will post if you are interested. I'm looking for people with maybe links to the press or any high authority to also suggest ways in which I can gain more exposure.

This is very strange to me. I never thought at any point of my life that I would be where I am now.
I put faith in the legal system, told everything in truth. Honesty is the best policy? It isn't. It's proven to me that it isn't.

Not when police, solicitors and barristers are paid to twist anything you say into words to harm you. To get you convicted. To get you locked up.
Honesty is nothing to them.

In my eyes the legal system for this subject has turned into accuse > convict.

No hard evidence and just going off an accusation is more than enough to get you convicted.

[Rights Fighter]

Have you done your time and now out?

[truthspeaker]

Have you done your time and now out?

I am awaiting further instructions.

Grateful for reply. I'll try and tell the tale as best I can. Story and then the comments for in court findings. Open to any questions that anyone has.

[Casehardened]

Have you done your time and now out?

I am awaiting further instructions.

Grateful for reply. I'll try and tell the tale as best I can. Story and then the comments for in court findings. Open to any questions that anyone has.

I believe Rights Fighter was wondering that if you have been convicted, how are you in a position to be able to post on the forum; or did you mean you are awaiting sentencing?

[truthspeaker]

I believe Rights Fighter was wondering that if you have been convicted, how are you in a position to be able to post on the forum; or did you mean you are awaiting sentencing?

Correct. Sorry.

[truthspeaker]

I used to be very care free. I had a good careers I suppose, had a lot of things, boys toys and the like. I was a big child. In some case I still am. I was naive I was always over optimistic and an extrovert. I could chat to anyone and be confident in large crowds and meeting new people.

It was like that how I met this girl. Me being an extrovert and joking around, I had let her acquire my number and we began to message each other. Very general chit chat, daily occurrences, what we were up to. We would have many messages a day and this was constant throughout the time we knew each other.

She was 14 (she told me 15) at the time and I was 28. I've always had friends of all ages. I've never cared. As long as you are nice people, have common interests and aren't hostile then I consider this as friendship. My girlfriend at the time did not know of this friendship. She was easily jealous and can overreact. The girl in question knew very clearly that I was happily taken though, she also had a boyfriend. A very abusive one.

We frequent the same place of our hobby and have many common friends. We'd known each other for a short while and she would discuss her deepest problems with me and I would offer her advice. She was a nice person and I'm not one to stand by and see someone suffer and not try to improve the situation for them. Maybe now I take a step back but before I would never turn someone away if they asked me for help.

We met quite a few times and she had been round to my place and she even stayed one night at my place.

The first visit was just to get something to eat and a chat. Nice evening learnt lots about her. She was having an eating disorder, her boyfriend abuses her emotionally and would threaten to cheat on her and regrets losing his virginity to her. Demanded sex from her or else he would get it somewhere else. She told me that she used to live in another country and that her dad was abusive so her sister and her mum had to escape him and get back to the UK. Se was telling me about her exes and how she went on a "**** fest" after him to get back at him and in addition she mentioned that she was raped by someone in the country she was previously in. She had a secret Facebook that she kept away from her current bf and was friends with this rapist still on Facebook. I was extremely shocked. She also had various issues with her health physically and other minor mental issues. Her boyfriend would mental abuse her to the point where she self harmed also. I really didn't like any of this.

Seating arrangements were I was sat on my computer chair and there was some time that I sat on the bed also. She sat at the top of the bed and i sat at the bottom. Cross legged. I lost my balance at one point and instead of helping me back onto the bed she pushed me with her feet. It was funny albeit frustrating as I got stuck between the bed and the wall.

Later that week she had arranged to stay at her friends house to go to a party. Her friend's parents were having quite a heated argument and she didn't want to be there, that and she didn't want to attend the party anymore.

I offered to pick her up and to get something to eat (I hate eating by myself) and then can decide later what she wants to do. Go home, go back to her friend's place or she can stay at mine. She didn't want to go home though. Her reason being that her and her mum doesn't have the greatest relationship and she is quite abusive towards her. Would have a low tolerance to the fact that she gave her a lift to her friend's house and then for her to return home the same night.

We chat and I kept myself sat on my computer chair while she sat on my bed. We had spent a tiny amount of time downstairs but it was a cold evening and my room was the warmest room in the house as I had a fan heater. She had a call at some point in the evening and I had gone downstairs to give her some privacy. Throughout the night she was on her phone and messaging various people I assume.

I kept asking her through the evening if she wanted to get food yet and if she wanted to go home. She didn't want food (which I was annoyed about) and she didn't want to go home. I asked her many times if she wanted to go home as I was annoyed that she didn't want food. I ended up not eating that evening.

It got late and she changed into a very short lacey and silk like nighty. That's what I remember anyway. She didn't go to the bathroom to get changed and I had no idea that she was doing it. I was looking at my computer screen at the time and only noticed her getting changed in the same room when I turned around to talk to her. I turned back around right away as I didn't want it to be awkward and definitely didn't want to be assumed to be a pervert. Which if you think about it, if she had the confidence to get changed into such a small item of clothing within the same room she already trusted me enough to not look, not be interested or that she wanted me to see.

It was autumn / winter time so I asked her if she would like some track bottoms. She might have gotten cold and it was somewhat to cover herself up. She refused the clothing and climbed into the side of the bed that was closer to me on the chair. Sleeping arrangements were that if she wanted I would sleep downstairs or share the bed. I had a king size and we are slender 5ft 7" sized. She was a little taller than me actually. A very brisk, straight forward and instant reply from her was that she didn't mind sharing the bed.

It got later and she fell asleep. I had given her a small cuddle prior to that. Just a close hug. Nothing sexual intended. any other contact that we had were hugs and cuddles for when she was telling me something sad and a very genuine time when someone just needs a hug. I continued to watch videos on youtube as I wasn't tired. I have trouble sleeping at the best of times and I can never get to sleep until I am physically exhausted. When I get into bed and try to fall asleep my mind is too active for me to relax. Therefore I like to wait until I am way tired and my brain can just focus on charging the batteries. I finally got into the other side of the bed just before 5am.

Morning came and she had mentioned that she needed to be home early last night. I woke up at just a little past 10 and I shook her to say get up you gotta be back. She dismissed me waking her up saying it's probably closer to 12 and then went back to sleep. I also put my head back down for a snooze. After a while I woke up before her again and woke her up saying it's nearly 12. She woke up, got dressed and I took her home. Everything was fine, she got dressed again in front of me and we were just generally chatting. I asked if she was hungry but she had to be home and didn't have time. Everything was fine.

We continued to talk and text and she was trying to arrange to see me again. She was attending an event the week after and wanted me to go along with her. Throughout the week there were no issues, a very normal week. She was ill for one day with flu symptoms. I was in the area at the time and I asked to see her. She refused because she didn't want me to see her ill but I explained to her people are people and we all get sick. I lived by myself for quite a long time before and I hated it. If friends are ill I tend to ask if they are ok. When you are ill just someone bringing you a glass of water or making sure you're eating something substantial means a lot. Just for someone to care. She insisted no and I went home.

At the weekend I saw her again at the place we frequent together. The Friday that weekend I was with a friend that I hadn't seen in a while. She felt socially awkward and I said that I will stay chatting with her so that she didn't feel that way. We were chatting for nearly 2 hours together and during this time the girl in mention was messaging me and came up to me to say hi a few times etc. She text me saying she was going to finish with her current bf to attempt to get my attention as she knew I didn't like the way he was with her. My reasons were not that I was interested, it was because I don't like bullies.

Attention grabbing failed everyone went home. The evening had finished. She text me later that evening telling me that she got jealous. I asked her why she was jealous and it took a while to get it out of her that it was because I spent a lot of time with my friend. I then stated to her that we (me and the complainant) were just friends and that she shouldn't get jealous as friends shouldn't get jealous over something like that.

The weekend finished and we were still talking as usual. She reminded me about the event which was on the Monday following and I had forgotten about it. I always said to her that I might go and no promises can be made. She was still trying to get me to attend despite me saying at the most a maybe.

The week started and on Monday, Tuesday we had a falling out. The falling out was over her current boyfriend. How he was super abusive both mentally and physically. I had stated to her very clearly that she needed to find someone else, not me, but someone else. I did not want her to mistake that I was trying to split them up so that I could make a move. She was VERY aware that I was with someone and that I wouldn't be interested in her. The falling out, a lot of it was, whenever he upset her she would run to me. I grew tired of it all, her complaining, me offering advice and her not taking it. It was a vicious cycle and I was tired not just from hearing it but also because I knew she wasn't going to help herself get out of the situation. It actually made me quite angry that she was letting him get away with the way he is and not retaliating.

Wednesday. I picked my girlfriend up, she was performing music and she had a little time beforehand so we went to get coffee and donuts. I parked my car near where the complainant lived and we had our coffee and donuts there. She walked past the car with her friend and peered in. She had a shocked face and carried on walking. When she returned she was stood at the entrance as it were to the block that she lived in with 2 other boys and they were smoking.

We finished our coffee and donuts and it was time to go. As I looked down to start the car one of the boys walked over, as I started the car he turned back. I didn't notice that he was walking towards me until my girlfriend at the time had said. I drove to the entrance of the car park which was also the exit. The complainant flagged me down and walked round to my window. We said hi asked how each other were and I introduced her to my girlfriend. I carried on to drop my girlfriend back off and I went home.

We exchanged messages that evening and the next day also. They turned very short and even a little hostile from her. The week went on and I can't remember if we spoke past Thursday. Before I knew it I was arrested Saturday morning. The police told me who it was but not what I actually did until I was in front of the sergeant at the station. Apparently I had put my hands down her trousers when she was asleep and she woke up with my hands down there. She wasn't wearing any as she was wearing her nighty. So how did that happen?

I wish I could see the CCTV footage of when I learnt that information in front of the sergeant's desk. Biggest shock face ever.

That's the first part. Long I know. Any questions welcome.

[Rights Fighter]

I asked whether you have served your time as you are now posting. it seems you have been convicted. If you have, did you get a community sentence or have you served your time?

[truthspeaker]

I asked whether you have served your time as you are now posting. it seems you have been convicted. If you have, did you get a community sentence or have you served your time?

Awaiting sentence.

[Casehardened]

My barrister proved the complainant to be inconsistent, a liar, giving unclear answers to the point the judge had to step in to have a go at her. The jury, judge, onlookers from both parties including her own mother laughing and shaking their heads at her answers. My solicitor and barrister had no doubts that it was going to be NG. To my disappointment the jury refused to exercise any common sense.

I'll reply on your own thread so as not to hijack Heartbreaking's....

Thank you for a well-written and non-explicit account (not always the case on the forum I'm afraid)

I'll be brutally honest as I believe you can take it....

I presume the charge and conviction was on a count of assault rather than rape as no penetration was alleged. In that case the jury had a lesser burden to deliberate over and TBH (this is the brutal bit) if I'd been on the jury and heard that you and a girl were sharing a bed I wouldn't have found it a huge leap of faith to believe that you had touched her.

14 year old girls are a loose cannon (been there etc) but of course her age precludes the obvious defence of consent.

You mentioned that your barrister was shocked at the verdict; did he offer any advice on a possible appeal against conviction?

[truthspeaker]

I'll reply on your own thread so as not to hijack Heartbreaking's....

Thank you for a well-written and non-explicit account (not always the case on the forum I'm afraid)

I'll be brutally honest as I believe you can take it....

I presume the charge and conviction was on a count of assault rather than rape as no penetration was alleged. In that case the jury had a lesser burden to deliberate over and TBH (this is the brutal bit) if I'd been on the jury and heard that you and a girl were sharing a bed I wouldn't have found it a huge leap of faith to believe that you had touched her.

14 year old girls are a loose cannon (been there etc) but of course her age precludes the obvious defence of consent.

You mentioned that your barrister was shocked at the verdict; did he offer any advice on a possible appeal against conviction?

Correct, in the beginning they also had grooming but later on decided to drop it as there was clearly none in the messages that were exchanged. The story isn't finished but in the end it was assault for touching breast, assault for touching vagina, assault for licking vagina and assault for kissing.

I hadn't touched her. Bed sheets were taken to test for any kind of fluids etc that belonged to her or me. Nothing came back from that.

The situation in a nutshell without the rest of the story for now is:

Tuesday - I sexually assaulted her
Saturday - She lies to her mother that she is staying with her friend
Screams to me for help with a made up story about party and her friend's parents arguing
Pre-empted friend that she wasn't actually staying there
End result was so that she can stay at mine. - This was all proven in court that she had lied to all of us. ALL different lies.

Week after - Tries to arrange me to attend the event on the following Monday, talks to me normally and sees me on the weekend where she gets jealous of me with my friend.

Week after that - We fall out on the Monday / Tuesday
Wednesday - Sees me with my girlfriend
Thursday - I can't remember but still talking if correct (This in her account was the day that she told one friend "I think I've been sexually abused". In court she said she . told her another friend first. She told her friend but didn't say my name, her friend then went to the school . counsellor to see how to support her and accidentally dropped the complainants name in. Therefore the school . as obligated to speak to her. School > mum > Police. Snowball. Too late to go back on a lie.)

Saturday I was arrested.

[truthspeaker]

Why in the world would if someone sexually assaulted you on the Tuesday THEN stay round there on the Saturday the same week and sleep in a very short nighty?
- "You're a sexual predator so I am going to come back round and sleep in very little clothing"

Why in the world would you STILL talk to this person?
Why in the world would you still arrange to see them?
Why in the world would you tell this person that you were jealous that they were talking to someone else?
Why in the world would you flag them down in the car park to talk to them?

A child would know that if you invited a friend round on a Tuesday and they stole one of your toys that you don't want them to stay round on the Saturday following.

[Casehardened]

As already mentioned.......

14 year old girls are a loose cannon

As an outsider it seems that this girl liked you/wanted your attention and did this in a way that she knew how.

You were clear with her about your girlfriend but the logic of a 14 year old is a wonder to behold and undoubtedly she thought that sharing your bed would turn your head and then couldn't cope with the reality that it hadn't (when she saw you and your girlfriend together) and lashed out, again in a way she was already familiar with.

Notwithstanding all this analysis the reality is that if you stated in the police interview that you and the complainant did sleep in the same bed, it then comes down to a question of 'he said' and 'she said' as to what did or didn't happen; of course if you had denied sharing the bed then the lack of DNA would be highly significant.

[truthspeaker]

As already mentioned.......



As an outsider it seems that this girl liked you/wanted your attention and did this in a way that she knew how.

You were clear with her about your girlfriend but the logic of a 14 year old is a wonder to behold and undoubtedly she thought that sharing your bed would turn your head and then couldn't cope with the reality that it hadn't (when she saw you and your girlfriend together) and lashed out, again in a way she was already familiar with.

Notwithstanding all this analysis the reality is that if you stated in the police interview that you and the complainant did sleep in the same bed, it then comes down to a question of 'he said' and 'she said' as to what did or didn't happen; of course if you had denied sharing the bed then the lack of DNA would be highly significant.

I was very clear with it. When we spoke at one point I even asked her what she wanted from me. I said if it's friends then it's ok, if it is more then I can't talk to her. I went through many lengths to not mislead her in any way. I was 100% honest in the police interview. I didn't ask for a legal representative as I believed, honesty is the best policy. If one is 100% honest and didn't do anything wrong then everything should be fine right? Yet, police are paid to twist my words and make it work for them. Solicitors, barristers are paid to do the same.
It taught me never to be honest with the police. Staying silent or short answers would always be the best.

It was a case of he said she said. The jury are supposed to only decide guilty if they are "sure beyond doubt". How can you be sure unless you were there or if there was DNA evidence?

I will add this now as I don't want to be portrayed that I withheld any information. This was a separate case but decided under the same jury which was highly unfair.

On my computer they had found 28 "inaccessible" images of underage or seemingly underage girls. Level 1 images which means... bikini, underwear or sexual pose.
28 images out of 8000+ searches over the time of 10 months if i remember correctly.

So out of a potential 224,000 images they found 28 "inaccessible" ones that they decided to add to the trial.
I fully admitted that they were on there. If they found it it must be there. I don't recall ever seeing them but I don't believe that they would have planted it there.
I was hands held high that they found them, they are there.

In a reply to an earlier post "consent" was never an issue. It never happened. The prosecution actually wanted to try and settle that the activity was consented before the start of the trial. I declined. I refused to be put guilty for something that I didn't do. No way. I was fighting the case as we had a strong defence.

[truthspeaker]

The judge had given very strict instructions to separate the cases and not to allow the result of one affect the other. Humans don't function like that!
They were prejudice from the very start when they found out what it was for. Their faces changed in an instant.

[Rights Fighter]

He can't (or shouldn't deny) that he shared a bed with the 14 year old, if that is what he did.

However, forensic tests should still have been done, because one would expect mixed samples of DNA (semen / her secretions / saliva) to be present had the alleged assaults occurred.

What does counsel say about the prospects of appealing the conviction? He would have a view at this stage as he would know whether the JSU (Judge's Summing Up) was faulty or if any abuses of process were committed.