Falsely Accused

[Skidrow]

Hello everyone.

I'm not entirely sure what to say, or how to go about saying it. It's a very sensitive subject and it is hard to talk about it.

I was arrested 4 weeks ago for an allegation of rape of an 8 year old child (my partners daughter), I was arrested at our daughters (the accuser) school, taken to the police station and sat in a cell until I had a medical and they took my DNA and finger/palm prints, then I was left overnight until the next afternoon when they were ready to interview me. I was Bailed the following evening with certain restrictions. One was that I was to live and sleep at my parents house, 120 miles from my home address. I was scared and confused and I did not seek representation during the initial interview, it was all too much and I could not think straight. Since then however I have sought legal counsel.

This allegation is not true, but the police told me during the interview that the Accusers Statement is in "Great Detail". We are going to push for her to have ADHD tests done, as she is known through the family to be a compulsive liar, and she does all the things that a child with ADHD would do.

Since then Social Services have made sure I am denied contact with our 9 month old son, and they have taken both children into "emergency care" as the house was a little untidy, and the risk of me contacting them and causing them "further harm" is too great. We have been to a CPS meeting and Social Services have pushed for a court hearing to get our son adopted and the girl fostered. We put forward the idea of my sister having them both (she is willing to take any tests/assessments that they can throw at her) and they immediately shut it down because of the connection she has to me. However, during the CPS meeting we questioned this and stated I had not had contact with my sister for a number of years, and that I don't even know her address, and they responded with "it's up to the courts to decide". They have since fabricated concerns with the baby, that the Health Visitor has brought up with them about, even though we frequently got him weighed by the health visitor and no such concerns were raised with us. I am afraid that we will not get our children back now, as the court will side with the Social.

The police have been to my house, taken my PC, my Laptop and my Mobile Phone, and given me a date in which to return to the police station, in late September. I have requested that I be moved back to my home address, as the children have already been taken from us, and even offered to have a restraining order put on me, but they said the risk was too great and denied the notion.

So that's my story, I'm not sure what else I can say about the matter, I don't know what else I can do, I can't see my kids, I can't go home, I'm stuck in a place I have no desire to be in, The only good thing I have going for me right now is the support of my Partner. Other than that it's all negatives. Even my Solicitor is saying I might not qualify for Legal Aid, so I have literally nothing going for me.

Thanks for reading, if anyone has any questions I'll do my best to answer them.

[frightened spouse]

Hi Skidrow

So sorry to hear of your current situation, I am literally lost for words, how unspeakably awful.

I can't imagine how hard it is particularly the situation with the children, how they can try and rush ahead with plans for the children when these are nothing more than allegations is appalling. Have you looked at FASSIT sorry I couldn't post a link, they may be of some assistance.


Reading your story made me think of previous posters breakmy heart and bluenikky their threads maybe of interest to you. It is good to hear that you are being supported by your partner through this incredibly difficult time.

Take care

[o my god]

I can not believe of they have done to your children!! As if this is not a hard enough time. Will they not let the children live with any of ur partners family? I'm taking it your on bail and have not been charged yet?

[Casehardened]

Hi and welcome to the forum though extremely sorry to read of the circumstances that brought you here.

Like FS, I am appalled that SS is trying to foster the children before the allegation against you has been determined.

I don't know enough about the machinations of the SS to advise how to challenge this, though unfortunately quite a few of our members have, and may be along shortly to offer advice.

As regards the allegation against you, it is known that false accusers often go into elaborate detail, especially if they are young, as a way of trying to make the accusation more convincing and this could be her undoing.

If you could think as to where she might have acquired sufficient information to make the accusation, this will help to defend against it, though you won't see details of what she has said unless you are charged.

We always advise using a solicitor who is experienced in defending false sexual offence allegations should the matter go any further, would this be the case with whom you selected?

[Skidrow]

Frightened Spouse - Thank you for your reply, I will research FASSIT, and I will have a read through the posts you mentioned. I agree that it is appalling what Social Services have done, but they claim that it's in "the best interests of the children". Currently I'm waiting for a meeting with my Solicitor, to talk through my case hopefully.

O My God - Thank you, the children are currently living with my partners mother and sister, but they have told the Social that they can't care for them long term, so the Social have pushed for a court date to get them adopted/fostered. They are looking at putting the daughter with her biological father, who is in himself an abuse, controlling drug user who repeatedly attacked the daughters mother (my partner). But the Social don't seem to care or want to take any of this into consideration, I only hope that they do stringent assessments of him so that they can see what he is really like from his police report, then perhaps they will see what he is really like.

I am currently on Bail without charge yes, due to return to the arresting station late September.

[Skidrow]

Hi and welcome to the forum though extremely sorry to read of the circumstances that brought you here.

Like FS, I am appalled that SS is trying to foster the children before the allegation against you has been determined.

I don't know enough about the machinations of the SS to advise how to challenge this, though unfortunately quite a few of our members have, and may be along shortly to offer advice.

As regards the allegation against you, it is known that false accusers often go into elaborate detail, especially if they are young, as a way of trying to make the accusation more convincing and this could be her undoing.

If you could think as to where she might have acquired sufficient information to make the accusation, this will help to defend against it, though you won't see details of what she has said unless you are charged.

We always advise using a solicitor who is experienced in defending false sexual offence allegations should the matter go any further, would this be the case with whom you selected?

Thank you for your reply, there are a number of places where she could have picked up certain info from, the school being number one, as forced sexual education is now a factor to be considered, she is often around when the baby's nappy is being changed, stuff about sex is all over films, TV, music, continuously being forced down peoples throats whether it is wanted or not. I play a games sometimes and she does watch every now and then, so it could have come from there too, she stays with relatives which could be another source, the list of possibilities is endless but I highly doubt that the police will take any of these into consideration.

I currently am switching solicitors, as I felt my first choice was not performing to expectations, as I had only a 10 minute meeting initially in reception with her and then heard practically nothing from her since then, no returned phone calls/emails or letters. I emailed a specific solicitor in the firm that was recommended to me but he was unavailable, but he put me in touch with another solicitor in his firm, but his email about legal aid did not look promising. He is scheduling a meeting with me but when that will be I am not yet sure.

[Casehardened]

I currently am switching solicitors, as I felt my first choice was not performing to expectations, as I had only a 10 minute meeting initially in reception with her and then heard practically nothing from her since then, no returned phone calls/emails or letters. I emailed a specific solicitor in the firm that was recommended to me but he was unavailable, but he put me in touch with another solicitor in his firm, but his email about legal aid did not look promising. He is scheduling a meeting with me but when that will be I am not yet sure.

There are some personal recommendations from members in this link, they may be useful to you depending on location, though some firms will not accept legally aided cases.

http://www.daftmoo.org.uk/mooforum/s...ist-solicitors

[o my god]

Have you had a public out law meeting with as yet? I could proberly help a lot with this one

[whatsgoingon?]

Hi Skidrow, I'm so sorry to hear of your terrible situation and the mindless cruelty dealt out to your partner and kids. It just amazes me how they act in haste, let others suffer at leisure .

Other helplines that may be able to give you good advice and support are ' Families need fathers' http://www.fnf.org.uk/

and 'Equal rights for seperated dads' http://www.separateddads.co.uk/false...ild-abuse.html

Although you don't fit the exact profile, you are for all intent and purpose now seperated from your patner and your children. I know of the 1st, other members have used them. I don't know of the second.

I think you will have to act both quickly and carefully as regards your children ( is your partner not thought to be suitable to keep them, or is she also suspected of abuse?). Get the best advice you can and make sure you know your rights, the children's rights and what ss are entitled to do.
If there is a member of your family who can foster the children, they should get advice on how to make their case to the SS and ensure all communication with them in writing. Once there's been a court order, it's very difficult to undo.

Make sure you have the best solicitor you can, some legal aid ones are excellent should you be entitled to it.
Best

[lawlessone2009]

Hi and welcome,

You have brought reality with you, beyond reality! Your position makes truly frightening reading and I really don't know how you are able to function let alone provide such a balanced opening and continuation to your thread.


The children could well have been removed from your partner due to something that's been said in the statement from her daughter.

As for placing her with her father. That is better (in a twisted way!) than her being placed in foster care where she could well be open to real abuse.

As for your son. Pull out absolutely every possible stop to ensure that an adoption does not take place. Adoption cannot be reversed.

I see the daughter being dragged into foster care, realising what her lies have done and then spilling the beans but not before a forced adoption has taken place whereby your son is removed forever.

I would have your partner explain this to her sister/mother. They may well be pissed off but they really do need to ensure that SS do not get their grips on the children.

As for your own position. You could well be bailed repeatedly whilst all the other stuff is happening. I would highly recommend that you get a solicitor in place. Does your partner qualify for legal aid with regards fighting social services?

[Casehardened]

Several members have had FA's made against them by ex's when they have initiated custody or access proceedings (in order to muddy the waters!) and usually the sequence is that the rape allegation has to be dealt with first before the family court will consider the custody issue.

While appreciating that your situation is different the principle ought to be the same and a permanent solution regarding the children should not be made until the allegation against you has been determined.

I second LL1's suggestions of getting your partner to engage a family lawyer to deal with this issue while you have a specialist in defending sexual offences; though connected, legally they are separate issues.

You mentioned your partners ex; is the girl still emotionally attached to her father and therefore resents you 'for taking her mother away from him'?

[o my god]

Hi skidrow please keep posting today, I have to go to work in amin but will look when I get home I have had a lot of dealings with as and think I could help a lot with

[Skidrow]

Have you had a public out law meeting with as yet? I could proberly help a lot with this one

I'm not entirely sure what a public out law meeting is to be honest, but I don't think that I have had any kind of meeting like that, as the only meeting I've had was my initial interview at the police station and the CPS meeting a couple of days ago.

Hi Skidrow, I'm so sorry to hear of your terrible situation and the mindless cruelty dealt out to your partner and kids. It just amazes me how they act in haste, let others suffer at leisure .

Other helplines that may be able to give you good advice and support are ' Families need fathers' http://www.fnf.org.uk/

and 'Equal rights for seperated dads' http://www.separateddads.co.uk/false...ild-abuse.html

Although you don't fit the exact profile, you are for all intent and purpose now seperated from your patner and your children. I know of the 1st, other members have used them. I don't know of the second.

I think you will have to act both quickly and carefully as regards your children ( is your partner not thought to be suitable to keep them, or is she also suspected of abuse?). Get the best advice you can and make sure you know your rights, the children's rights and what ss are entitled to do.
If there is a member of your family who can foster the children, they should get advice on how to make their case to the SS and ensure all communication with them in writing. Once there's been a court order, it's very difficult to undo.

Make sure you have the best solicitor you can, some legal aid ones are excellent should you be entitled to it.
Best

Thank you for your kind words and helpful advice. I will definitely look into the links you provided, as for my partner being able to have the children, they have been removed from her care due to historical incidents involving her ex partner and Social Services involvement in years past. I have mentioned to my sister about getting advice from a solicitor, but from my side of the family she is the only one, I could ask friends if they would be willing, but I'm not so sure that they would still be friends if they found out what I was accused of, even though it's false. I have been recommended to a very good solicitor company, who have dealings with high profile cases involving murder and celebrity dealings, so I'm hoping that if I can get legal aid one of them at the company can assist me.

Hi and welcome,

You have brought reality with you, beyond reality! Your position makes truly frightening reading and I really don't know how you are able to function let alone provide such a balanced opening and continuation to your thread.


The children could well have been removed from your partner due to something that's been said in the statement from her daughter.

As for placing her with her father. That is better (in a twisted way!) than her being placed in foster care where she could well be open to real abuse.

As for your son. Pull out absolutely every possible stop to ensure that an adoption does not take place. Adoption cannot be reversed.

I see the daughter being dragged into foster care, realising what her lies have done and then spilling the beans but not before a forced adoption has taken place whereby your son is removed forever.

I would have your partner explain this to her sister/mother. They may well be pissed off but they really do need to ensure that SS do not get their grips on the children.

As for your own position. You could well be bailed repeatedly whilst all the other stuff is happening. I would highly recommend that you get a solicitor in place. Does your partner qualify for legal aid with regards fighting social services?

Thank you for your reply, I don't believe for a second that she would be better off with her biological father than she would be in foster care, from the photo's, stories and police reports I have seen regarding him it would be just as bad if not worse for her to go to him.

We are unsure if my partner can get legal aid, as she has no money coming in (I was the main provider for the family) and all her benefits that she was getting have been torn away (with regards to CHB and CTC). When I go for my solicitor interview we are going to ask if the company can also provide family law support for her, as she has dealt with them before for family law.

Unfortunately my partners sister and mother are not supportive of my partner, I have not gone into detail about the relationship between them all, but it's not pretty. There has been a history of violence and abuse within the family, reported and unreported, and are essentially putting down poison for me and my partner.

Several members have had FA's made against them by ex's when they have initiated custody or access proceedings (in order to muddy the waters!) and usually the sequence is that the rape allegation has to be dealt with first before the family court will consider the custody issue.

While appreciating that your situation is different the principle ought to be the same and a permanent solution regarding the children should not be made until the allegation against you has been determined.

I second LL1's suggestions of getting your partner to engage a family lawyer to deal with this issue while you have a specialist in defending sexual offences; though connected, legally they are separate issues.

You mentioned your partners ex; is the girl still emotionally attached to her father and therefore resents you 'for taking her mother away from him'?

When the social worker came to visit us at my bail house, she mentioned that when our case for the kids goes to court they would probably order the police to hurry up with the investigation. But in the CPS meeting they seemed sure that the kids would be adopted/fostered before that happened.

Would it not be the case that I would also need a solicitor to help deal with the Social Services?

The daughters Biological Father has not been in contact for at least 7 years, and has refused supervised contact on several occasions when it was put to him through my partners solicitor. He has never brought her a card, present, never tried to find out how she is doing, or wanted to be involved in her life. But yet the social services deem it necessary to assess him and they will probably refuse my sister custody and give him custody instead. There is a long history of domestic violence within my partners and the daughters biological fathers past, reported and unreported, he has done a great many things, I won't go into detail but I can assure you that it's devastating to hear what my partner has been through in the past, and it only seems to be getting worse and not better.

We are going to go to every available source to pester the social into doing the right thing, the press, any MP (specifically John Hemming) that will listen to us, doctors, any relevant organisations and literally just anybody that will listen to us.

We are at our wits end now and it's becoming increasingly difficult to cope with this situation. I'm not sure how much longer we can go on like this, as every door that seems to be an option is being slammed in our face in one way or another. Reading through some of the posts on here only makes it worse, as people in similar situations are also having their lives destroyed with no where to turn, and the outcomes are bleak.

[Skidrow]

There are a number of excuses Social Services gave us as to why my sister wouldn't be a viable choice...

1. Because the daughter doesn't know her - when we challenged this and said about the fosterer's wouldn't know her either, they came out with it's different because foster carers have already been through assessments, which in itself isn't an acceptable reply to our comment...

2. Because she hasn't had any assessments done - but we already told them that she would be willing to have any assessment or test done to satisfy them...

3. Because she is only my Half Sister - I'm not entirely sure why this would make any difference at all..

4. Because of my connection to her, her being my sister - which is a blatant contradiction to number 3...

5. Because they think that I want the kids there so that I can go and visit her - I have told them on several occasions that I don't even know where she lives, and as far as I'm concerned, as soon as the kids are out of the area where my home address is I can then go back there, and the distance between us if they were with my sister is far greater than the distance between us now...

First they said that they weren't going to bother even considering her as a viable option, but as soon as my partner challenged this they stated they would ask the police then let my partner know what the decision was, but this never happened, then when she turned up at my bail address she said she had spoken to her higher uppers who had agreed that she could be assessed, and that the SS had a week to do the assessment, as the SW was going to be on leave, but she would definitely assess her, which again, never happened, they have not contacted my sister even once. They wrote on the section 47 report that it was assessed as not appropriate due to the person being the partners step sister. Which she is not my step sister, she is my half sister, the ignorance and lies spilling out of the socials mouths and pens astounds me. The social worker stated that she has tried to work with us, on several occasions and we were not interested, however this is not the case, the only time I have ever even met this social worker is when she turned up to my bail house. She has said she will do things that she hasn't done.

They have also stopped my partners child benefit stating to them that it was a fraudulent claim, stating that my partner has not financially supported the children while they were in the aunt and gradmothers care, which again, is not true, we have both my father and my partners father who were with us when we bought stuff (food, clothes, toys, nappies, milk etc) for the children, but the aunt and grandmother are not going to side with us about this, and they are "perfect" in the eyes of the law, so it will literally be our word vs theirs unless we can find receipts and stuff.

I know this is nothing to do with a false accusation but I was asked. Sorry for posting in the wrong place.

Thanks for reading.

[Skidrow]

Hi skidrow please keep posting today, I have to go to work in amin but will look when I get home I have had a lot of dealings with as and think I could help a lot with

Any advice or help you could give us will be greatly appreciated, this is not the first time that we have had dealings with SS but it is the first time that the magnitude has been this great. Last time it was just a case of CPS meetings and a few referrals and that was that, this time the kids are at great risk.

My thanks to you for your input, now and future.