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  • #16
    Hi BG,

    I have just read RF's reply to you on PAFAA; hopefully you will also have already read this and/or MH's pm or been in touch with her, but as I understand her reply it seems that it is in order for the judge to rule that you cannot give [hearsay] evidence about the girls previous sexual claims as she didn't make these directly to you. (not sure from your posts whether she made them directly to your daughter?)

    However she also said you and your daughter should be able to give evidence about what did or didn't happen in the room as you were actually there.

    Hopefully you can check this with the barrister this morning (though before you go in the public gallery!) This is vital because any appeal could not be brought on the basis that the jury were not aware of your evidence (as it was available at the time of the trial i.e. now!) though it could be brought on an abuse of process basis if the judge has indeed incorrectly ruled on this matter

    (PS this last sentence is only my opinion i.e it wasn't in RF's reply)
    'What doesn't kill you makes you stronger'

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Casehardened View Post
      Hi BG,

      I have just read RF's reply to you on PAFAA; hopefully you will also have already read this and/or MH's pm or been in touch with her, but as I understand her reply it seems that it is in order for the judge to rule that you cannot give [hearsay] evidence about the girls previous sexual claims as she didn't make these directly to you. (not sure from your posts whether she made them directly to your daughter?)

      However she also said you and your daughter should be able to give evidence about what did or didn't happen in the room as you were actually there.

      Hopefully you can check this with the barrister this morning (though before you go in the public gallery!) This is vital because any appeal could not be brought on the basis that the jury were not aware of your evidence (as it was available at the time of the trial i.e. now!) though it could be brought on an abuse of process basis if the judge has indeed incorrectly ruled on this matter

      (PS this last sentence is only my opinion i.e it wasn't in RF's reply)
      Hi thanks casehardened, I hadn't seen right fighters message till this morning but myhome had pm'd me. The sexual claims were directly heard by myself and my daughter but not required in court because the judge doesn't want to hear about it because its harsh on the girl.
      Im in the process of getting ready so I will check with the barrister in the morning and will make sure I don't go in the public gallery until I know definitely I'm not needed. Will keep you all posted how its going by end of the day. Hopefully some good news today x

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      • #18
        Originally posted by babygal2014 View Post
        The sexual claims were directly heard by myself and my daughter but not required in court because the judge doesn't want to hear about it because its harsh on the girl.
        Sorry that I'd assumed it was hearsay, hadn't read your posts properly, no wonder you are angry about the 'justice' system

        Hopefully his barrister will sort it so you can at least give evidence as to what happened on the night of the alleged incident otherwise it will be a complete travesty.
        'What doesn't kill you makes you stronger'

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        • #19
          Thinking of you and hoping today is better xx

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          • #20
            Originally posted by is there justice? View Post
            Thinking of you and hoping today is better xx
            Hi im in the court waiting thank god barrister says im giving evidence and my daughter is this afternoon. Been getting couple of pains so hoping its braxton hicks haha that will be interesting otherwise. The oic has been trying to chat and joke with me whole I wait. If only I could tell him what I think of him.
            Partner about to give evidence in couple of minutes so will let u know any other news.

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            • #21
              good grief - you're not doing things in halves are you?! Hope it all goes well and if the baby is on the way - good luck with that too!
              And God promised men that good and obedient wives would be found in all corners of the world. Then made the world round .... and laughed and laughed and laughed ..

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              • #22
                Thinking of you BG. Hope things are going better today. Keep strong.

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                • #23
                  Hi BG
                  I hope you have had a better day in court today and that it was only BH contractions!

                  You must be worn out with worry but try to stay positive, difficult I know only too well.

                  Hugs x

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by is there justice? View Post
                    Hi BG
                    I hope you have had a better day in court today and that it was only BH contractions!

                    You must be worn out with worry but try to stay positive, difficult I know only too well.

                    Hugs x
                    Hi all juat braxton hicks from my nerves. Gave evidence and so did my daughter. Was told not allowed to say any bad word abput thhe girl as the judge wont allow it and barrister was told not to mention the dna beimg clear on all her clothes and him. So wrong Will definately be appealing this if he gets guilty as barrister has made it clearbthe judge was partial to the cps side. Anyway summing up tomorrow and jury I suppose.Spending night with him without kids x

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by babygal2014 View Post
                      and barrister was told not to mention the dna beimg clear on all her clothes and him. So wrong Will definately be appealing this if he gets guilty as barrister has made it clearbthe judge was partial to the cps side.
                      Unbelievable, what's the point of looking for forensic evidence if it's not to be disclosed (rhetorical question, I know the answer )

                      BG, have a relaxing night and best wishes for tomorrow
                      'What doesn't kill you makes you stronger'

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                      • #26
                        This sounds just awful. It's more than unjust, it's criminal in itself. To disallow DNA evidence is unbelievable.

                        Enjoy your evening together and try to relax. Hopefully things will turn out better than you think.

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                        • #27
                          Thoughts are with you and your family today.

                          It's over 7 months since my trial and I know how stressful and emotional this time will be for you.

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                          • #28
                            Thinking of you all BG and praying justice will win the day. Xx

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                            • #29
                              Look after yourself, the baby and family BG.
                              Thinking of you and hope for the right result.
                              Take care.
                              Non,je ne regrette rien.

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                              • #30
                                OMG - BG - this just seems to get worse and worse....only just seen your posts as I was away all yesterday and then had dinner with RF. we did talk about your hub's trial. CH has summed up the same as what she said to me too. I am completely gobsmacked and not a little enraged the judge won't allow DNA evidence - what's the point of having it then

                                Have replied to your PM....hang on in there hon.......
                                "Only love can light the mirror of your soul" - Chris de Burgh

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