My son was falsely accused

[saddened]

Now 95 additional signatures on the epetition... keep signing please to keep legal aid, just click on the link below. It takes seconds of your time and is really easy to do.... a life line to the falsely accused xxx

http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/48628

PS Just checked again and over a hundred additional signatures ..... it feels good to know we can play our part to help save legal aid.................

[Boys don't cry]

I did sign it.

As many of you I never had any problems with the justice before.

Someone found my solicitor who himself chose my barrister.

I worked hard towards my defense but my barrister even though he ripped me to pieces was heaven sent.
The prosecuting barrister was a lot less argumentative and I am sure knew my accuser was wrong.

I did pay 4000£ in advance and I had them back because I was declared unanimously Not Guilty.

Please,sign this petition.

[saddened]

BDC, thanks for your note. The petition was highlighted by RF to me and I cannot imagine what my son would have done without this service. My son was arrested, just 18, frightened and not knowing what was going on. We did not know that he had been picked up, where he was as the police would tell me nothing. I just knew they had come to my home looking for him and that he should have been in by 8pm, yet I only managed to track him down at 11.15 at night. He had been stripped of his clothes(to me seems a form of assault and humiliation), undertaken an interview which must have been terrifying as he was shaking when we picked him up from the police station, completely bewildered.... yet the one thing that gave me comfort is that he was given a very nice solicitor who supported him whilst he was there(which I met later), when police would tell us nothing, so we could not be...

Thank god for legal aid .... I would hate to think he was sat there all alone and frightened with no one on his side.....

My reason and my story ... xxx

PS Really pleased they saw sense and found you not guilty!! :-)

[is there justice?]

Signed. At the mo we don't need legal aid but if it ends up needing an appeal we most likely will.

How anyone can think it's fair to rob people of their right to a proper defence is beyond me.

[saddened]

Thank you ITJ - I really hope all works out for you!!! . :-)

[50intheclip]

That is an excellent suggestion!! Completely agree.

As a man I believe it will take women who stand up to these injustices (like Saddened) and point out exactly how dangerous is it out there for a man in the hands of unscrupulous women. Men are VERY vulnerable to accusations, and as women know and often (but don't always admit) the typical women can EASILY outmanoeuvre the average man. Young men need to be taught that the law and society mean that he has no defence or protection if a woman:
lies about her age,
lies about being on the pill,
becomes voluntarily intoxicated and consents but retracts consent retrospectively the morning/changes her mind
is the default rapist if any issue is raised re consent, even of the girl initiated the sexual interaction
takes advantage of him when he is voluntarily intoxicated and conceives, and has no (legal) say in the final word regarding the pregnancy
if she has the baby while assuming financial liability she can restrict him to weekend visits (or even supervised ones if she really wants to make his life hell) and does not need proof if she makes abuse allegations, and will very likely not be prosecuted if she is found to be lying
Just to add, a man needs to know he will be the default pedophile and aggressor in any instance of domestic violence or domestic sexual abuse.

This probably has something to do with the high rates of male suicide in the UK.



Pressure from female activists is what caused these laws and procedures to be implemented, and only pressure from women will be viewed as 'credible'. Male MPs (and many female ones) are far, far too afraid of offending female voters or being 'pro rape' to do anything. Female misconduct regarding lying in the family court, making accusations of this kind, lying about being on the pill etc are rarely if ever punished, so it is no surprise that these kind of allegations can be made with impunity. If female rape activists had there way men would be imprisoned if the women merely regretted sex the sex day, these women don't realise that the law, the way rape suspects are treated and the 'guilty until proven innocent connotations' result in the accused and his family beginning a sentence the moment the accusation is made.

[Seeking Justice]

I have to say I completely agree with the comments about unfair/biased system towards women.

If two people have sex, both intoxicated and cannot remember whether they consented the next day, the man is liable for a rape prosecution, not a woman.

It is entirely feasible that a man is incapable of giving consent whilst still being able to perform sexually, even at a peripheral level.

Its time the playing field was levelled because, after all, we are supposed to be equal rights these days, but as we all know, this is a totally absurd concept which proves, in reality, for women to be able to pick and choose when they want to exercise their equal rights / not exercise equal rights as and when it suits them.

[lonley place]

I agree with you both. All the equal rights rubbish has gone too far, too many women now have the impression they are
powerful and hold the control over men, the politicians and authorities are giving them that illusion too.
As for the feminists what a load of **** !

[50intheclip]

Ok, thank you, will do. I have also messaged my MP about this and also the £11K which I understand is an incentive for an accuser.... For me, a real victim of rape would seek justice, not to make money.

Both issues, I feel need looking at....

To clarify, this 11k incentive is all in the form of compensation, yes? Is it clear at which stage (arrest/charge/conviction) this money is available to the claimant at?

The CPS guidelines for prosecuting in rape trials state in can be held against the claimant by the defence if a claim for compensation has been lodged before the conviction.

[50intheclip]

I agree with you both. All the equal rights rubbish has gone too far, too many women now have the impression they are
powerful and hold the control over men, the politicians and authorities are giving them that illusion too.
As for the feminists what a load of **** !

Before I say anymore, I believe rape is an egregious crime which should carry harsh penalties. This is also why I believe spurious, unmeritorious and completely fabricated claims based on malice, revenge and emotion should be eradicated so the police have time to pursue genuine rapists who are a danger to society.

I also believe the current situation has turned into a war against men and boys, with the notion propounded that only men commit sex crimes and women can only be victims. Did you know that 50% of the boys who called Child line in 2008 had been sexually abused by their mothers? Men pose a potentially physical threat to women, and the law has been designed - rightly to protect women from this potential threat - since this threat against women has existed from the dawn of time, women have had to learn how to psychologically outmanoeuvre men in the interests of their own wellbeing and reproductive success, and most women are pretty good at it, and NO legal protection exists for men and boys. If anything the 'men are predators and women are the prey' myth is still propounded with boys being instructed to moderate their behaviour further while it is criticised and repressed to accommodate women's needs (boys languishing at school as the consequence of a feminised learning environment is a good example). Couple this with angry women's rights activists asserting that 'women don;t lie about rape' (Google the Donnollen rape trial, this WRA went out on quite a limb taking it upon herself to speak on behalf of every rape complainant ever and everywhere) and anti rape campaigners arguing that women shouldn't be prosecuted for lying about rape, and men don;t really stand much of a chance.


I posed this hypothetical scenario to a woman during a recent discussion: if it is illegal to sleep with a voluntarily intoxicated women, then if a woman gets drunk and initiates sex with me, isn't she guilty of incitement of rape? I could be guilty if I try and initiate sex with her. Women seem to forget that equal rights equate to equal responsibility. Women I speak to quail at the prospect of having any legal restriction over their sexual conduct imposed. While women can be guilty of sexual assault, assault by penetration and forcing someone to have sex (S.4) these are rarely used against them, since what many women consider acceptable conduct (touching a man's bottom/arms/chest) they do not consider acceptable behaviour by others.

I am all for equal rights, but I find double standards and preferential treatment unjust. I also believe we are going to have some high profile female sexual offenders come to light in the near future too, which will help dispel the 'all predators are men' myth.

[50intheclip]

Now 95 additional signatures on the epetition... keep signing please to keep legal aid, just click on the link below. It takes seconds of your time and is really easy to do.... a life line to the falsely accused xxx

http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/48628

PS Just checked again and over a hundred additional signatures ..... it feels good to know we can play our part to help save legal aid.................

Just signed it.

[50intheclip]

BDC, thanks for your note. The petition was highlighted by RF to me and I cannot imagine what my son would have done without this service. My son was arrested, just 18, frightened and not knowing what was going on. We did not know that he had been picked up, where he was as the police would tell me nothing. I just knew they had come to my home looking for him and that he should have been in by 8pm, yet I only managed to track him down at 11.15 at night. He had been stripped of his clothes(to me seems a form of assault and humiliation), undertaken an interview which must have been terrifying as he was shaking when we picked him up from the police station, completely bewildered.... yet the one thing that gave me comfort is that he was given a very nice solicitor who supported him whilst he was there(which I met later), when police would tell us nothing, so we could not be...

Thank god for legal aid .... I would hate to think he was sat there all alone and frightened with no one on his side.....

My reason and my story ... xxx

PS Really pleased they saw sense and found you not guilty!! :-)

https://www.gov.uk/police-powers-of-arrest-your-rights

http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/h_to_k/inchoate_offences/

http://www.rapecrisis.org.uk/Policeprocedure2.php

http://www.cps.gov.uk/publications/a..._protocol.html


I would go through all of this with a fie toothed comb (against what happened with your son) so if it does - god forbid - go to court then you may be able to highlight any improprieties, especially re failing to interview relevant/important witnesses etc.

[myhome]

I'm a woman - I've been FA'd by a woman - and I'm very heterosexual ----just wanted to let you know to balance your points...............

[Don'tbelieveit!]

To add to MH
I'm a woman and my hubby has been FA'd (allegedly) by a male. My hubby is not gay!
xx

[Rights Fighter]

Thanks for answering this MH.

I was about to deliver a written hand-grenade.

Not only are women falsely accused; boys and men also lie about sexual abuse that never happened. It's not only men who are falsely accused, and it is not only females who make false allegations.

Not only that - they - women and men - often suffer FALSE allegations of physical abuse on tiny babies when are actually suffering from some sort of bone or blood disease that had not yet been picked up. Look at Sally Clarke, Angela Cannings, and many, many others.....

And of course if only the OP would realise and notice - it is more often than not WOMEN who form the large base of supporters who run these groups.

People who SUPPORT those falsely accused of sexual abuse are WOMEN.


Just saying......