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[Rights Fighter]

Hi Sad Mum

I've been reading this thread and I wondered if there is any update? From what you have said he has been through PDH - Plead and Directions Hearing.

You seem to have received a lot of excellent support from Diana Holborne, Saffron and Ali who is also an active member of www.pafaa.org.uk and www.sofap.org.uk (both are now the same site).

Please feel free to join the forum on PAFAA and obviously this invitation is extended to any other family members or supporters who have people who have been falsely accused of sexual abuse.

The more support you can get the better. When my friend Rob A was accused in 1999, then convicted in 2000 I had no idea where to go or who to turn to. He came out on appeal in 2001 and from this experience I realised just how corrupt the British Judicial System is, how easy it is to "hide" evidence and subsequently how easy it is to put an innocent man behind bars.

RF

[mariex]

Thankyou Rights Fighter...
Things are still the same, my son did a not guilty plea... The family in question went down to the courts and the mother was over heard saying whilst she was outside having a fag,.. if he dont get sent to prison today im chaniging my f... ing solicitor, then as my son was waiting in a room, the door openend and they put the family in the same room as him, he went to whoever and said to them, i am not allowed to see my familly especially my sister and brother and you have put that family who accused me in the same room has me, they immediately apologised and removed them,i will give you a brief topic on the statements from the daughter in the written statement she told them he had his penis inside her for 5 minutes............................. in the meantime down below is intact............... then in the video interview she was asked............. what was his penis like ..she replied down.. my son asked for the tape to be stopped and told his solicitor if he was excited it would not be down... they continued with the video they asked the girl where was your legs ..she replied closed... she was then asked ..did he put his penis inside you at any time.. she replied NO.... they then asked her the same question again and that was.... where was your legs and she replied Open, that is just some of the contents, my sons solicitor is asking to have the girl medically examined again, i dont know if thats been done yet.. its just a waiting game till his court case in November.
My son went to see his solicitor this Monday to gather things for his defence.. he was not in a good mood and also it seemed she was asking all the same questions he was asked 4 months ago when he was first arrested ......... his solicitor said to him ...your head is not here today ..we will carry this on next week and told him to stay focused and calm.
In the meantime they have no evidence at all .... so the cps asked his solicitor to ask my son if he pleads guilty to a sexual misconduct then they will drop the rape charge ?????????????? can any one answer that one,.... obviously he didnt ..he stood there proud and pleaded NOT GUILTY.


I phoned him yesterday and he seemed abit better in mood, he is feeling the strain now.. if they didnt live on the same street as my family .. he could be here... but im sure we will have our day in court.....

Thanks for a wonderfull site
Its so good to talk and get things off your chest
bye for now Sad Mum

[mariex]

can anyone help me with my last topic i posted on the 15th june......... apparently they havent got a solicitor.. they are being supported by the victims support... are they good and what do they do

[Rights Fighter]

Hi Sad Mum

I have private messaged you

Victim support can help people in a variety of ways. My friend Rob who was falsely accused in 1999, convicted in 2000 and released on appeal in 2001 and he was assisted by VS because he was a victim of false allegations. They helped him find accommodation when he came out as at first release he lived in a derelict farm house. A friends family lived in the "decent" bit and all they could offer was a room wtih no plaster on the walls, no electric and no curtains. Good job it was in the middle of the countryside and in the summer!

He was lucky - I was volunteering with VS at the time so they knew about the work I do. I don't know if other VS would help in this situation but it's worth a try.

RF

[diana_holbourn]

I hope everything goes well at the trial, Sad Mum. November sounds like a horribly long time to have to wait till!

This forum's probably moving tomorrow. But the threads will be transferred to the new one, and I'll still hang around it.

[marie]

thanks diana for your post to me, im now just living on a knife edge, the girl in question who has accused my son decided to deliver adverts for pizza's lol through doors and actually walked up my path and posted one through my door, my door was open due to the nice weather .... i was absoloutley gob smacked, and then she has the audacity to walk past me and try to smile at me............... at the moment i feel like im wasting my time and when i phone my sons solicitor about these little incidents, she does'nt seem to be taking my views and what i see seriously, if i could afford a private detective to prove what this family are like i would but unfortunately i cant... what more can i do to prove to the legal system what the girl in question is doing and the family

sorry for babbling again , november is such a long time for us all and no doubt they are going to believe the girl even though there is no DNA and no medical evidence.. i dont think my son has a chance .....

thanks to you all xxxxxxxxxxx

[diana_holbourn]

I wonder if your solicitor would tell you what evidence she already has and what she plans to use in court if you asked her. I'm not sure how much they're allowed to talk about it. But it might be worth a try. If she has quite a lot of things, it might make you feel more optimistic. After all, there were quite a few things in your son's favour, weren't there. So she might be able to do quite a good job already. And she might be able to reassure you that she's got quite a lot of things if you ask what she can use. What happened about that extra medical test they said they were going to do on the daughter?

Maybe the lawyer who tries to get your son prosecuted at the trial won't do a particularly good job.

[marie]

Hi everyone,
Just a little update, my son is no longer in the bail hostel, he has been out of there for 4 weeks and has been working for two weeks, he is in the town where we live and staying at a very good friend of ours, who i must say have young children, which the legal people granted knowing they have children, would they have granted that if they thought he was gulity????????????? .............i dont know if this looks good for him , we are keeping our fingers crossed it does go for him, i have heard and been told there was no rape involved and no medical evidence, but the case is still going to court in november, speaking to legal people who have told me about the night in question its basically down to the mother (which we knew anyway) of her saying.......... "she said" and "he said" and "she told me" .... etc, hope you understand what i mean, basically its not what the daughter has said , the mother has put her penny in on the night when they where questioning her, so hopefully the courts will see this , i will keep you all informed as soon as we know the outcome whether its good or bad for us all, not long now , we have got 3 weeks to go.

speak soon bye for now marie xxxx

[Rights Fighter]

Marie

Some "private eyes" will work on legal aid. I know of one who does this in Hull, which I think is not too far from you. If the solicitor believes that the information they could obtain is vital to the case they can apply for funding for this. It's unusual I have to say, for funding to be granted but if a good argument is put to the LSC, sometimes they will allow it. It's worth a go but you must put forward the reasons why it could provide evidence that the accuser is lying.

RF

[marie]

Hi there to everyone,
Over 8 months we have had the nightmare from hell and held our heads up high with the allegation over my son, well its all over for us and the outcome today was brilliant, the girl and the mother lied and lied and tripped themselves up for three days in court, the case was thrown out of court and my son was found NOT guilty, thankyou to all of you who have given me advice over the past months,and i wish everyone who is going through these evil allegations the best of luck to all, i hope i can still come on the site and perhaps give advice and the experience of what me and my family have suffered to others who are going through what we have

With love to all..... marie (sadmum)>>>>>>>>>>> but not any more )

[mol12]

i hope i can still come on the site and perhaps give advice and the experience of what me and my family have suffered to others who are going through what we have



all help no matter how small helps
GOOD LUCK

[diana_holbourn]

Congratulations Marie. It must be a relief, and you must be really pleased.
It's good that he's got a job to go back to.
If it's tempting for him to do something to them to get them back for what they did, tell him that he'll be much better off not risking ruining his life by doing something he might get sent to prison for, and the best revenge is to try and make your life as successful as possible. Then they'll know he's enjoying life and making a success of it despite what they tried to do.

[mol12]

revenge

you got it Diana, thats the way to do it
revenge is to try and make your life as successful as possible. Then they'll know he's enjoying life and making a success of it despite what they tried to do.

[marie]

thanks diana and mol

I agree with you diana, revenge is to show the family in question we are at our best now, im trying now to get this family off our street and with all the complaints about them this complaint i am putting in will open there eyes at the main office, i have detailed everything over the past ten months of how our lives have been affected, i pray to get them out and away from us, and hopefully put an injuction on them to stop them coming around our street if they are evicted, also i would like to say ... why is there no register for false accusers?????? that would be my most enjoyable vendetta towards the family, so many innocent men are persecuted through lies and lies and named and shamed, something needs to be done very quickly, surely the goverment can see this is going out of proportion

speak soon xx love to you all xx marie

[marie]

another young man accused by the same family

Hi There,
just alittle update, since the accusation made about my son things have been really good for us, my son is moving on and looking is best again... however......... the family in question have a young girl living with them who is a friend of the girl who accused my son.. two weeks ago this friend was aware what my son was accused of... and now ..this girl has accused this poor young lad of rape (he is 16), and the mother of the girl who accused my son has got the police involved again...and shes actually been to the parents of this lad and kicking off with them... this young girl is the same age has the girl who accused my son ... i cant let this happen to anyone else in our community, can you give me any advice on how to protect this other family... it just shows how young girls make accusations like this with a mother who wants blood and ruin another young mans life