Please help, advice urgently needed!!

[Saffron]

Hi Believe
I replied to this on your other thread before I read this one - DOH!
Just a careful word...the fact that she is claiming this happened on more than one occasion is not unfeasible, espeically given hubby's job. She might claim that she was "too scared" to cut all ties with him, or even that he had threatened to "hurt" her loved ones if she told anyone.

However.....the allegation has gone from "rape" to "sexual touching". This was exactly what happened in Mr Saffron's case. After forensics proved that no sex had actually taken place, the FA changed her statement from "I woke up to find a colleague lying on top of me, having sex with me" to "I woke up to find a colleague sitting beside me, touching my genitals with his fingers". Quite some change, for a sexually active 25 year old. How on earth could she have made that mistake, especially as she "reported" the day after the incident. Not years, months or even weeks or days afterwards - a matter of hours afterwards. You would think that no jury in the world would convict on that basis.....
Unfortunately our barrister completely failed to draw attention to these glaring differences and so the jury never even heard or read her first statement.
Anyway, sorry I am digressing.
As others have said, now you can be proactive. You will get full disclosure. You can start picking her apart.
It's an odd feeling. The wait is over for the time being and you can start doing something about it.
Good luck!

[Believe]

Am I right in thinking the police and cps aren't considering any kind of rape occurred but the offences relate to sexual activity with a minor. That will be where the consent comes from. It won't state that on the charge sheet but sounds as if the girls story has changed from being forced into it to consenting to it. And it has turned from full sex to touching. I'd bet my left arm that her story changed when she realised she might have to undergo a medical exam

Yep thats right faith, there is no consideration of rape and not mentioned anywhere on the charge sheet, just more than one charge of sexual activity with a minor. If it had been one charge it might be considered to be forced, but as it was more than one and it was apparently in a location where the ' victim' was not forced to go to on numerous occasions, I just made the assumption that she consented. The problem lies in the very fact that although she was of legal age, he was in a position of trust. Although of course it didn't happen!!

My partner is very low today, but I expect him to pick himself back up again. Once the shock wears off and we know where we stand in terms of his job and finances etc. feel as though we should be doing something, but there is nothing we can do at this stage...

[Believe]

Hi Believe
I replied to this on your other thread before I read this one - DOH!
Just a careful word...the fact that she is claiming this happened on more than one occasion is not unfeasible, espeically given hubby's job. She might claim that she was "too scared" to cut all ties with him, or even that he had threatened to "hurt" her loved ones if she told anyone.

She had said that she felt intimidated by him etc. but her story has changed and to me that is a huge trip up that she is a lier, we won't let that one slip! Besides that fact that people are standing by him and he will have a line of character witnesses to back him up is a strong argument for that. We can't all be wrong, unless he is an amazing actor and deserves an oscar!!

[Faith]

So the girl was over 16 at the time of the alleged offences?

[Believe]

So the girl was over 16 at the time of the alleged offences?

Yes she was and they didn't take place on the school premises...

[Believe]

All day I've been having racing thoughts go through my mind. My concern is the press, will this be leaked? How is it possible for them to find out? Surely after a year if anything was to be leaked it would have by now? I doubt the accuser would want this out in the public... Too many things going on in my head!

[stressed out]

stressed out

heyy believe

I am sorry to hear that you and your partner going through a hard time.
your partner case has changed from rape to sexual activity and i am sure, this case will turn out to be NOT GUILTY.

good days come, always after bad days.

[just married]

sorry to read about this, believe, but great to hear the fighting spirit!
Wishing you everything good.

[whatsgoingon?]

Hi Believe, sorry I'm joining this thread so late on. I'm not surprised you're going through a mixed bag of emotion! The more you read, the more incrdible these things seem.
There seem to be at least two basic false premises on which most of these cases are based, particularly yours. The first is that all females speak the truth, the second that no minor does or can consent to anything sexual. This doesn't help you much at the stage your at, but it's not you going barmey even though you might sometimes feel that way, it's that certain politicians, endorsed by the police and cps think that all sex is a crime and consider tax-payer as the golden goose through which they can pursue there irrational fantasy. If we follow that premise, than there may come a day when sex is out-lawed all together, with sex toys and artificial insemination (highly taxed , of course) taking the place of normal human practices. Sounds barmey, doesn't it???

Keep strong, one day at a time, you will see this one out. Make sure you and your husband keep up the fight.
All the very best

[Believe]

Thanks folks. I agree, it does appear that all cases related to minors (although only a minor in this case because he was in a position of trust (allegedly))are being pushed through ti the courts. It will be interesting to see what is in the disclosure. In this case, the girl alledges that the activity occurred at a different venue from the school, which she went to of her own free will on 6 occasions. If you are abused once, you don't keep going back for more! Well I wouldn't! I'm pretty sure that most girls are sexually active at 16. This girl originally alleged that she was raped on more than one occasion, which she went to of her own free will. The charges brought before him are of sexual activity (touching). Big difference! No mention of any penetration what so ever! I don't understand unless she has changed her story, how that can be?!

But anyhoo, I'm trying to remain rational and positive at this stage. To keep things normal for the family and to put measures in place to safeguard them. It's dark times, but at the end of all of it, no matter what happens, we will all be together to carry on with our lives. I'm not losing my family for no lying false accuser!