Boyfriend falsely accused of rape.

[sad person 6]

Jools
Just you remember what goes around comes around and i believe that.You stay strong and take care
SadPERSON
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[Jools]

Geraldine

Seems me and you are so in the sme place right now. Which prison is your b'friend in? Mine (G) is in Hull at the moment but be moved depending on what Classification he is given! Words fail me!

If you need to chat - you now know where I am.....

[mol12]

Just you remember what goes around comes around .
i belive this and it will good luck to you two and all the rest that are going through this hell.
i have been there ,there is light at the end of the tunnell,it's long but there is light.
Be strong

[val lavender]

Hi there

I used to work for FASO but recently left as I disagree with Margarets policy on prison visits and affermative action.

If you can let me know your boyfriends addresses I will write to them and visit if possible.
{Note from Webmaster: Address and telephone number removed as per new forum rules - please use the "send a personal message" link in Val's profile if you wish to get in touch with him}

Being an ex copper who has faced a false rape allegation engineered by my ex wife and her lesbian lover [now dead {suicide when about to be arrested for perjury}] I know what you are going through and will try and help if I can


Regards


Val

[Jools]

Hi Val,

I will drop you a line over the next few days after I have spoken to G. There is an area of his trial that is of concern - he is severley dyslexic, to the point it affects his understanding and pronunciation of the spoken word at times. He was advised by the British Dyslexia Association that the Court should follow certain procedures regarding this - to ensure he is given adequate time to ensure he has understood the questions etc but the judge wouldn't entertain this AT ALL!

Dyslexia is now recognised as a disability and G is now having problems actually with the Prison Officers, trying to get them to understand what he has to go through with writing, the spoken word and numbers.

I have made various enquiries with 4/5 Prisoners help-type agencies over the past few days but, due to the Xmas hols - I won't get any feed-back until next week.

Poor G is in there, feeling like he's banging his head against a brick wall!

I'm going to see him tomorrow so I'll be in touch...

Thank you for your kind words

[geraldine]

Hi

Thank you for all your kind words of support - its reassuring to know that other people are in the same situation, and that this isnt the 1st wrong convistion.

I have spoken to Scott today, he sounds so glum. I went to see him on Thursday and tried to reassure him as best I can, but it seems a bit like false hope! His barrister agreed at the end of the trial that there Judge seemed biased & one sided in his summing up & has advised him that he will complete appeal paperwork. I've tried to contact the solicitors to discuss this, however; its been closed because of Xmas.

I've told him that although he will continue to protest his innocence a part of him will have to accept this sentence and try to look to the future, he agreed. He immediately requested to do a carpentry course, he has to do something positive with his time and if he can get a trade and a good qualification that he can immediately gain employment with on the out then at least him feeling he has acheived something from this is all a bonus. He called today to say his application to do join the course was refused because its not open to sex offenders! I'm so angry, you spend days trying to help him focus only to get a knock back. He is unsure at the moment if the course is only excluded to s.o at that prison or all prisons. Surely this is discrimination, expecially when your innocent! He is at HMP Birmingham, although they've told him that he will probably be moved to HMP Rye Hill Vulnerable prisoners unit in 4/5 months time. He has said that he going to try & tough it out on a normal wing for as long as he can, scott being anti sex offender he doesnt want to segregated with only them for company. But his biggest fear of all of this is not so much the jail, but the attacks he faces for being labelled "a nonse or a rapist beast" he is scared he will get badly injured or infact killed.

I feel as if im grieving, as if someone has died. I told him this today, he agreed its as if a part of him has now died.

He refused to sign the sex offenders register and will not be taking part in the sex offenders treatment programme. I'm aware that he will therefore never get parole, however; he is worried he wont get released on license after serving 2 3rds, does anyone know?

Jools, was your friend put on S.O register & how long did he get?

[timharrypip]

Hi Geraldine

Have sent you a personal message. When you have read it will you please get in touch. Would rather not discuss at the moment on open forum. thanks

[Khan]

Hello Geraldine

I am so sorry to hear about your boy friend. But be strong and keep fighting for justice. May God be with us.

[geraldine]

I have this week been advised that we have passed the 1st Judge stage. I suppose it is good news, but I wont get excited. Im yet to hear of anyone who has passed the 3 Judges. Thing is, well its a long story, but we sacked our solicitors, I never got responses to my calls & letters in the end, so assumed they werent continuing with appeal. As soon as you sack them & get a new one who are willing to look at it - the oldies write & tell us the Courts are preparing papers for next hearing.

Now I need to ring the Appeal Courts tomorrow, because quite frankly I dont even know if we are still appealing on conviction or if this is just sentencing or both, as we have nev er had contact from Counsel since trial.

Do I see if the new Solicitors will deal with it at this stage, or should i stay with the useless 1st lot?

Scott is innocent, but after many months of research I realise that unless you get fantastic new evidence you may as well not bother. When the crime didnt infact occur, how can you find any evidence??

If is was just sentencing would we be right to continue? If his sentence was reduced, does that mean we cannot continue appealing conviction?
What road should we take?

Also, my friend told me that she read an article recently that 70% of people appealing have been made to restart their sentence. Is this true? Im scared that may happen to us, scott has now done 18 months, and has 5 left to serve, i'd tell him to end it now, if he was made to reserve this time.

Your views would be very much appreciated.
Thanks again
Geraldine

[Saffron]

Hi geraldine

I'm afraid i am not very clued up on the legal aspects of your questions, but I wanted to say that my thoughts are with you. When my husband was convicted and sent down, part of both of us died, and i know my heart will never be the same again. It is much like a bereavement, but with the pain of knowing that person is still alive, just cannot be with you through no fault of their own.

Appeals are time consuming, complicated and confusing. Have you spoken to Rights Fighter? She is a very hardworkng dedicated lady, she works as an assitant to a specialist appeals solicitor, I think the same one who got Sally Clark her appeal and release. you can PM her from this site. she will be able to give you loads of advice, and will get you in touch with a solicitor who will actually explain things and return your calls (they are such a nightmare about that!)

Let us know how you get on.

Saffron

[geraldine]

Thanks saffron

Things have changed since then.....the solicitor made a mistake although he wont admit it, I contacted the appeal courts myself, to find out he was denied by 1st judge, and this is only a renewal hearing by the 3 judges. he has no representation, nothing & this will be the appeals process exhausted.

I've been down & upset over it all, so couldnt find it in me to come on here, I will PM rightsfighter, thanks.

[Rights Fighter]

PAFAA support

Hi

Thank you for all your kind words of support - its reassuring to know that other people are in the same situation, and that this isnt the 1st wrong convistion.

I have spoken to Scott today, he sounds so glum. I went to see him on Thursday and tried to reassure him as best I can, but it seems a bit like false hope! His barrister agreed at the end of the trial that there Judge seemed biased & one sided in his summing up & has advised him that he will complete appeal paperwork. I've tried to contact the solicitors to discuss this, however; its been closed because of Xmas.

I've told him that although he will continue to protest his innocence a part of him will have to accept this sentence and try to look to the future, he agreed. He immediately requested to do a carpentry course, he has to do something positive with his time and if he can get a trade and a good qualification that he can immediately gain employment with on the out then at least him feeling he has acheived something from this is all a bonus. He called today to say his application to do join the course was refused because its not open to sex offenders! I'm so angry, you spend days trying to help him focus only to get a knock back. He is unsure at the moment if the course is only excluded to s.o at that prison or all prisons. Surely this is discrimination, expecially when your innocent! He is at HMP Birmingham, although they've told him that he will probably be moved to HMP Rye Hill Vulnerable prisoners unit in 4/5 months time. He has said that he going to try & tough it out on a normal wing for as long as he can, scott being anti sex offender he doesnt want to segregated with only them for company. But his biggest fear of all of this is not so much the jail, but the attacks he faces for being labelled "a nonse or a rapist beast" he is scared he will get badly injured or infact killed.

I feel as if im grieving, as if someone has died. I told him this today, he agreed its as if a part of him has now died.

He refused to sign the sex offenders register and will not be taking part in the sex offenders treatment programme. I'm aware that he will therefore never get parole, however; he is worried he wont get released on license after serving 2 3rds, does anyone know?

Jools, was your friend put on S.O register & how long did he get?

Hi Geraldine

I have emailed you. Not all guys on VP wings are guilty! I've got two of them in HMP Rye Hill. Please reply to my email and I will ask the guys to make contact with your Scott once I have his details.

RF

[Unregistered]

i know what ur going through

hey geraldine,
i know what you are going through, no not a boyfriend nor a husband but my husbands brother was accused but not over grown woman but for a child, my brother in law on any day wouldnt do this, he is so strick on others he heard about why in the world would this happen to him. he has tried so many times to appeal the courts judgement. the judge that tried my brother in law is now dead and before s went before him he told the dude that " any person comes infront of me better be ready to feel life in jail.." a drug charge went to jail for life and it was his first time...by the time s got into the court the attorneys didnt even have alot of time the attorney defending s didnt even get up , judge looked at s and said son ur butt is in jail for life without no chance of appeal. the girl that was accusing him didnt even take the stand. nothing. s has been in jail for a long time now and he is still trying to find a way to prove he didnt do this. everyone has given up on him but me. there isnt a attorney that he trust anymore that wont screw him over again. yeah im having problems finding thing that might help but im not giving up..there is things proving that it wasnt him he had the hand in a cast and the other one was wrapped up...yeah it was only touching that he is accused of, no doctor notes proving contact everything that a girl should have intact was there there was nothing wrong with this girl...but anyways this can keep on, i hope everything goes good for you atleast you have people and stuff behind you everyone that was involved with s is now dead or gone...hope everything goes good.

[Rights Fighter]

Hi Geraldine

I've just noticed on one of my few visits to this forum that you were going to contact me but so far I don't think you have.

Feel free to private message me your email address and I will answer (or your landline telephone number and I will ring you).

As I said before, "toughing it out" on the main doesn't always work because sometimes he can be found out with disastrous consequences. And to repeat myself - not everyone on VP wing is guilty.

Has he moved to Rye Hill yet? I can alert one of "my guys" there. I've prepared his CCRC application and they are still proceeding with it - they went to visit him the other week.

RF

[geraldine]

Sory that i didnt contact you....my head got so stiffled with it all...I came to breaking point. Luckily, i did find a good Solicitor who helped us, he seems quire renowned - Maslen Merchant....heard of him? Well he abandoned the appeal the day before the hearing, he said that the initial grounds put down by 1st barrister wouldnt be suffiecient. He is now preparing case for CCRC. Going to ask for other things to be produced through them. Its another long road....and I get the impression you dont have too much hope with it!

Nice to see you on PCUK....you'll remember who I am now!

PS: No he went to Dovegate, had a bad time there, got shipped out to Lowdham Grange, still on main stream, he doesnt lie about what hes in for. He tells people his story & toughs it out...its not my choice/idea its how he seems to want to play it.......................for now at least! Touch wood he will be okay hee now for a few years at least.