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    I really need some advise here, about one month ago I recieved a call from my brother who told me my Fathers house had been raided because his IP address had been pinged some two years ago on an illegal website, subsequent inquiries of his PC show thumbnail images of him orally raping his grand daughter, my sisters daughter. She has given video evidence last week, (she is 12), it has been a long on going abuse. He has been arrested and I believe charged. He lives some distance from me.

    I was asked by the OIC to bring my wife and two girls (late teenagers), along to be interviewed concerning my Father, once there I was arrested for touching my niece 6-7 years ago, she was 14-15 at the time of the supposed incident. This is alleged to have happened in my sisters house, just the once and I was arrested for sexually touching, she alleges that she had had a few vodkas ( I knew nothing about), I had let her drink a couple of my beers, she alleges that she fell asleep on the sofa, it was late around 12am and that she woke up and that my hand was down her trousers on her vagina, (no penetration), she said she screamed and run up stairs where I ran after her. This is a complete fabrication.

    The facts are I had had a go at her and talked to her for about an hour as to my she had pissed my wife off for not sending a thank you letter for Birthday and X-mas presents etc, she got really upset, cried, I comforted her said I didn't mean to upset her, she stopped crying and I went for a cigarette outside, when I came back she had fallen asleep, I sat down on the arm chair, she was asleep on the sofa, I finished my beer, shook her shoulder and told her its bed time, she and I both went to seperate bedrooms.

    After being arrested, I was interviewed with my the duty solicitor, he told me what the allegation was, I recounted the above to him and to the police at interview. They of course raided my house, took all computer and camera equipment etc. I am not concerned with that as I know there is nothing on any PC's laptops etc.

    My wife has thrown me out all but two friends have disowned me, my former closest friend is now sent me two text messages threatening me and has come looking for me twice, both times I have ignored him, however it is intimidating. Now the thing is in the first text message last Friday he names a police officer as having told him that I have bad mouthed him to her, she is the wife of a friend of mine of over 30 years who is also an officer. Surley a police officer who is not involved in the case, maybe on a personal issue because she knows me is inciting some sort of violence towards me here.

    I telephoned my solicitor and have kept the txt messages, his advise was to call the OIC and recount what I told him, I have phoned the OIC twice and left a message asking to call me, there is no response. I will be ringing my solicitor again tommorow at his request.

    A little background, I have no convictions for any sexual crimes or been arrested for anything to do with sexual crimes before, I know I have nothing to worry about regarding the computer and camera seized from my home, and there will be no one else coming out of the woodwork to say I did this to them etc. However I am worried out of my mind, my youngest daughter came to see me at work two days ago, my wife told her not to get in touch with me, she thought she was breaking the law, however the questions she aked me about the offence, aroused my suspicions and I suspect the police and or my wife sent her in to talk to me. You see what is going on her I have become so paranoid, I can't move away as all my friends and family are used up, I'm in a small minded town, my business is there, I'm constantly looking over my shoulder here. I have been bailed till mid November, but I dont think I can go on too much longer.

    Does any body have some advise, if you have an unblemished character and this one accusation, nothing else what is going to be the likley outcome here? My solicitor said he would doubt that charges would be brought, but I need to know that should it all go wrong what am I looking at here? Thanks for reading, please help.
    Last edited by a269; 27 June 2012, 08:00 PM.

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    Hi a269...welcome to the forum and sorry for the awful situation which you now find yourself in.

    Could the neice have gotten the idea to accuse because of the 'attention' on the 12 year old who was abused? perhaps also the telling off has something to do with it too. regardless, you are in this situation and you now need a decent solicitor to help you through it, one who is experienced in dealing with those kinds of cases. Perhaps you can let us know your county? That way we may be able to reccommend a decent solicitor.

    Please have a read of the sticky thread 'Been falsely accused: What to do now.'

    Any subsequence evidence you find in your support must go to the solicitor. Do not give it to the police under any circumstances.

    The CPS will weigh up your case and decide whether to charge...but this can be a lengthy process, particularly where computer forensics are concerned
    "Be sure your sin will find you out"

    Numbers 32:23

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Faith View Post
      Hi a269...welcome to the forum and sorry for the awful situation which you now find yourself in.

      Could the neice have gotten the idea to accuse because of the 'attention' on the 12 year old who was abused? perhaps also the telling off has something to do with it too. regardless, you are in this situation and you now need a decent solicitor to help you through it, one who is experienced in dealing with those kinds of cases. Perhaps you can let us know your county? That way we may be able to reccommend a decent solicitor.

      Please have a read of the sticky thread 'Been falsely accused: What to do now.'

      Any subsequence evidence you find in your support must go to the solicitor. Do not give it to the police under any circumstances.

      The CPS will weigh up your case and decide whether to charge...but this can be a lengthy process, particularly where computer forensics are concerned
      Hi Faith thanks for the reply I am in Devon

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      • #4
        To be honest with you after reading your story and hearing about your father I would bet on them unfortunatly charging you to answer your question I would say 90% they will.........................other people who can help will come on and talk to you soon

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        • #5
          Where have you plucked 90% from?
          "Be sure your sin will find you out"

          Numbers 32:23

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          • #6
            You're not your father. His life isnt relevant. Deal with what you can and forget the things (like dad) that you cant control. One step at a time and one day at a time.
            Unfortunately 10% (i can make up stats too) of people that replied to this thread are full of sh-ite and have no clue what they're on about and can do more harm than good, please disregard.
            Laugh at your problems, everybody else does. The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.

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            • #7
              One of the best solicitors practices in your area is Nunn Rickard in Exeter. Ask for Steve Nunn.
              People Appealing Convictions of Sexual Offences ~http://www.pacso.co.uk

              PAFAA details ~ https://pacso.co.uk/pafaa-people-aga...ions-of-abuse/

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              • #8
                Man oh man... 99% of the time I'm almost there and that 1% I'm nowhere near. No wonder I never get it right.

                You need a good solicitor. I would take RFs advised solicitor and give em a call, she sure knows the good ones. Others may also drop some names for you to check out.

                Have you received any word of when you'll be getting your electronic gear back?

                Your dad doesn't have any impact on you but I can kind of see where Wunderland is coming from. Your entire family is probably being checked out just now! I wouldn't think that if your father is charged and convicted it will have much bearing on your circumstances. Keep your head down, start reading all about sex crimes on here (alleged!) and other forums (by god is it boring but necessary) and ask us lots of questions.
                Wow... A signature option!

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Rights Fighter View Post
                  One of the best solicitors practices in your area is Nunn Rickard in Exeter. Ask for Steve Nunn.
                  You're a star!
                  "Be sure your sin will find you out"

                  Numbers 32:23

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by lawlessone2009 View Post
                    Man oh man... 99% of the time I'm almost there and that 1% I'm nowhere near. No wonder I never get it right.

                    You need a good solicitor. I would take RFs advised solicitor and give em a call, she sure knows the good ones. Others may also drop some names for you to check out.

                    Have you received any word of when you'll be getting your electronic gear back?

                    Your dad doesn't have any impact on you but I can kind of see where Wunderland is coming from. Your entire family is probably being checked out just now! I wouldn't think that if your father is charged and convicted it will have much bearing on your circumstances. Keep your head down, start reading all about sex crimes on here (alleged!) and other forums (by god is it boring but necessary) and ask us lots of questions.
                    Thank you lawlessone you said what I was trying to with more grace

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                    • #11
                      OK, to try to understand what the OP is telling us I will just sum up what I think the situation is.....

                      A269, your father has been accused of orally raping his granddaughter (your niece, who is now 12). There is photographic evidence of this. Pretty damning for your father. However, this 12 year old has not accused you.

                      The 12 year old's older sister has accused you of sexual touching. This is entirely false and unrelated to your father's case, right?
                      Sounds to me as though the older sister has seen the attention her younger sibling is getting and she wants a piece of it too. She's too scared to say "rape" so she has opted for "sexual touching".

                      Your father's case should have absolutely no bearing on your case, particularly as it is a different girl who has accused you. If it was the same girl then it would be pretty compelling, but it isn't. It's a different girl. And it sounds to me as though you haven't had any contact with your father for quite a while. Is that the case?
                      Any good sol or barrister would argue that your father's situation should not be disclosed to the jury as it would be prejudicial.
                      Please, get a good sol on board. A standard criminal sol will not do.

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                      • #12
                        @Amre I think everyone is allowed to say what he/or she thinks in this forum for people who have been falsley accused of rape and their is no need to swear.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Saffron View Post
                          OK, to try to understand what the OP is telling us I will just sum up what I think the situation is.....

                          A269, your father has been accused of orally raping his granddaughter (your niece, who is now 12). There is photographic evidence of this. Pretty damning for your father. However, this 12 year old has not accused you.

                          The 12 year old's older sister has accused you of sexual touching. This is entirely false and unrelated to your father's case, right?
                          Sounds to me as though the older sister has seen the attention her younger sibling is getting and she wants a piece of it too. She's too scared to say "rape" so she has opted for "sexual touching".

                          Your father's case should have absolutely no bearing on your case, particularly as it is a different girl who has accused you. If it was the same girl then it would be pretty compelling, but it isn't. It's a different girl. And it sounds to me as though you haven't had any contact with your father for quite a while. Is that the case?
                          Any good sol or barrister would argue that your father's situation should not be disclosed to the jury as it would be prejudicial.
                          Please, get a good sol on board. A standard criminal sol will not do.
                          You are correct, there is no accusation from the younger sibling, only the older who is now 20. I have had no contact with my Father for over 5 -6 weeks now and have not seen him in over 8 months, I have looked at the advised solicitor and will be calling him today.

                          When my daughter came to see me she told me that the police are convinced that I am in contact with my father and that he and I are in some sort of wider gang, of course there is no truth to this but my paranoia is doing nothing to quell the turmoil I am going through, the shock of my dad was enough but this is just killing me, I can see myself going under here, other than that one accusation I have nothing on record other than a drink drive conviction over 25 years ago.

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                          • #14
                            A269,

                            I'm so very sorry to hear about this horrible horrible predicament.
                            I read your post the day you submitted it....
                            There is invaluable support and advice available here on the forum
                            You are not alone.

                            take care of yourself
                            Last edited by just married; 29 June 2012, 10:56 AM.
                            I'm not ready to make nice

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by just married View Post
                              A269,

                              I'm so very sorry to hear about this horrible horrible predicament.
                              I read your post the day you submitted it....
                              There is invaluable support and advice available here on the forum
                              You are not alone.

                              take care of yourself
                              Me to mate I can't imagine what you are going through.life is not a life anymore for me.I am like a zombie wow heading full steam ahead to trial I don't know why but (well I do because im innocent) but I know ill win the courtcase every hair on my body every cell in my body is ready for the fight of my life .It's almost like I am ready to go into real war with gun's I have been waiting like a dog for 2 years and where am i know i get some girl telling me im full of SH..ITE she does not even know who i am.All i can tell you is prepare prepare prepare for judgement day start the snail process with the lawyer and solicitor speak to RIGHTS FIGHTER she is the head snowflake around here.She is wise and reminds me of a magistrate and saffron etc you have a wealth of info on here and some people are kind and make this site part of their lives I personally after im found not guilty I don't know if ill return as I want to move away from this life I am for ever scarred I WILL NEVER HEAL NO MATTER IF IM FOUND NOT GUILTY..................THEN WHERE IS MY JUSTICE she will still walk away nothing has happened to her but i have been in an emotional hell jail for 2 years where life aint no life .If your in depression see a doctor if i was not on anti-depressants i don't know if i would have made it.good luck may god help you

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