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[Raptorace]

Woah, hold on guys. This is a guy whos come here for support. Forget he's a priest, forget hes cheated on his wife, i didnt think we were the judging type here!!
We all know this is a hard enough time anyway without any un needed stick.

Hes made a couple of poor errors in judgement but most of us here have.

I for one reacted in a similar way when the police came knocking because i stupidly believed telling the truth and giving over items in support was the right thing to do because i knew id dine nothing wrong.
Its only later in you realise this is an error.
I guess he wont be back on here but if he does return lets give advice and support first hey

[Boys don't cry]

Woah, hold on guys. This is a guy whos come here for support. Forget he's a priest, forget hes cheated on his wife, i didnt think we were the judging type here!!
We all know this is a hard enough time anyway without any un needed stick.

Hes made a couple of poor errors in judgement but most of us here have.

I for one reacted in a similar way when the police came knocking because i stupidly believed telling the truth and giving over items in support was the right thing to do because i knew id dine nothing wrong.
Its only later in you realise this is an error.
I guess he wont be back on here but if he does return lets give advice and support first hey

Raptorace.

I did as well made (I was ready to write mistake) a "judgement fault" when I was interviewed by the police without any solicitor.
They offered me one that I could talk to on the phone and I thought "How can someone help me if he is not even here while I am being questionned?"
So I refused and just told the truth (Second judgement fault).
I went back to the police station with a letter that I wrote (Third fault)but as you may be aware when
you are accused of this allegation,you are not in a reasonable state of mind (I wasn't):
Then a few days later I went again to the police station (Fourth fault),my head was like a pinball as I couldn't believe it and said that I needed help.

Few months later my defense asked "why didn't I take a solicitor,why the letter,why the visits,..."

I just told the truth and I wouldn't think that my wife could do something so evil to her son's father
and even more surprised that the police just want to convict.

The prosecution told the jury and I that I went back to the police station not for help but to admit that I was guilty:
WHAT??? Why would I confess something that I never did???

We are not the judges,most of us on this website at one point made a judgement error (when we had a sexual relation)
We can (try to)forget that he is a priest and that he commited adultery but the prosecution won't.

I feel sorry for him and wouldn't judge but I am sure that I am not the only one who knows that he might struggle a bit more than the others.

[lawlessone2009]

A priest is possibly one of the worst professions you could be in and find yourself accused of anything of a sexual nature.

Priests have had a very bad press in recent years.
Priests, by their very nature, are generally open and honest people. The Police walk all over open and honest people.
Priests belief in God does not work too well with the law. We all pray to someone that the truth wins the day but a clever solicitor is what you really need.



I am in no way slating your profession! I respect your job but it doesn't condition you for what you are facing. If you were in a stressful job where everyone was out to stab you in the back constantly then you would be far more able to deal with the situation you find yourself in. You need help and support but first you need to stop being 'soft' and realise that you are going to have to temporarily change your methods when dealing with the accusation you find yourself facing. You need to toughen up!

We've all more or less got the just of your version of events and some have already realised that you're not dealing with things correctly. RF isn't slow and she's ready to take you by the hand and guide you through it all pointing out the errors along the way.

Every one of us on here provides assistance in different ways. Rights Fighter devotes her life to dealing with offences of this nature and any advice she gives is purely to help you, others give advice in different ways. Some simply give a shoulder to cry on, some talk about technical details, some spur on thought processes whilst others worry about your mental well being. It's the one stop shop for completeness!

You've come here seeking help. Everyone is picking an area where you need help and they can provide it. You have quite a lot of areas where you genuinely need help and unless you directly specify what you are needing then you will continue to get a mixed bag of replies. If you merely wish emotional support, you need a recommendation for a solicitor, you need to construct a feasible defence, you want to understand the entire legal process or something completely different then you need to let us know. Please don't go in a huff and disappear, we're genuinely wanting to help you and you need it. It's just that so many areas are being identified that we're all all over the place and eventually most will give up and focus their attention on other posts where they feel that their inputs are more valuable.

[Faith]

Lawlessone Said: We've all more or less got the just of your version of events and some have already realised that you're not dealing with things correctly. RF isn't slow and she's ready to take you by the hand and guide you through it all pointing out the errors along the way.

RF is very busy and doesn't have time (nor inclination I imagine) to guide each and every member in such a detailed way.particularly where a member reacts badly to being challenged and then disappears.

Raptorace is right to an extent...we're not here to judge BUT we have to remember that the site is public so we can't be seen to readily accept EVERYTHING without question and offer undying support to matters that are pretty dubious...without explanation
We often seek clarification in users stories...this isn't a sign of disbelief...this is us being comfortable it belongs on the site and may help the hundreds of anonymous users who come on as well as our active members and also so that we have the full picture to be able to offer proper advice.

[lawlessone2009]

Lawlessone Said: We've all more or less got the just of your version of events and some have already realised that you're not dealing with things correctly. RF isn't slow and she's ready to take you by the hand and guide you through it all pointing out the errors along the way.

RF is very busy and doesn't have time (nor inclination I imagine) to guide each and every member in such a detailed way.particularly where a member reacts badly to being challenged and then disappears.

Raptorace is right to an extent...we're not here to judge BUT we have to remember that the site is public so we can't be seen to readily accept EVERYTHING without question and offer undying support to matters that are pretty dubious...without explanation
We often seek clarification in users stories...this isn't a sign of disbelief...this is us being comfortable it belongs on the site and may help the hundreds of anonymous users who come on as well as our active members and also so that we have the full picture to be able to offer proper advice.

Sorry Faith (and RF). Didn't quite mean it as literally as it clearly comes across. My bad.

RF has already devoted time to clarifying some things for the OP. She would no doubt spend more time ensuring that the OP is on the correct path and also ensuring that the information the OP receives (from other members) is valid and usable. I wasn't meaning to imply that RF would spend hours and hours helping the OP and working through every detail, that at the end of the day is for the OPs legal team to be doing.

I know about the clarification issues and all the other issues that are going on in this thread. It's a bit of a mess and some posters are getting frustrated. I was attempting to relate to the OP the extent of a mess that he has gotten himself into and how many individuals on here will assist him in various ways to try to get him onto a balanced keel and at least ready to face what is no doubt going to be yet more bad press for priests if it ever gets out.

His church installing CCTV cameras needs to be reviewed drastically and whomever thought of that one needs to be sacked.

[Amre]

Hold on a moment, there are GAPING holes in his defense. He was expecting a visit from the cops and he has CCTV in his bedroom, so next time he brings a person half his age home, he has proof she consented. He apologized in his txt to her.
One of the hardest and uncomfortable things to do is describe the sexual encounter, but everyone sucks it up and trys to even give a brief out line. He just skipped it and needed to be prompted for virifaction of penetration. Sets alarm bells ringing. If this guy is innocent then he seems to be making things harder for himself and if he cant even deal with strangers (working under the assumption he is innocent) without having a hissy fit and storming off he is in real trouble.

I don't think it could be less relevant that he is a priest. Yet he accused users of discrimination towards him BECAUSE he is a priest WTF? I grew up a RC girl in Belfast in the 1980s and the only experiences ive ever had with (RC) priests have been positive and ive encountered some genuine beacons of humanity within the priesthood.
I think that the term "priest" might be used a bit too much these days. How does an adulterous "priest" so easily describe infidelity? But then, i guess, all most anyone could call themselves a priest.
So no, people don't take issue with you because you are a priest, they take issue with the fact that nothing you say adds up.

Now all im left to think about is where do I send the empty mars bar wrappers that prove im not fat?