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[jwt]

After my wife returned to her country with our children last year, i had my first dinner date with a 27yr old lady working in a care home. As a 47 yr old male, although i do look at leats 10yrs younger, i wanted it to go very well so i can have someone to take out, for meals and functions, normality.
we met outside a chinese resturant at 7.05, had a pleasent evening and at the end of the meal she said she wanted to come back to mine.
she went through my films while i poured us both a glass of wine, within a short time she said she wanted to go to the bedroom, i escorted her and help her to undress and we began, however, just as we began she asked the time, so i went into the other room and said it was 8.50, she said she has to go for 9 as she has to meet her friend as she was feeding her cat. (ofcourse this is only a brife outline, but its the times you will notice)
We made a date for the next night after her work, but she was constantly busy texting on her mobile, as she she left walking down the stairs i texted her she was lovely, and then again a few mins later after i noticed she had closed down her facebook account immediatly. a bit odd so i texted her i hope i have not done anything to upset you, its not my fault i think ur lovely and i see you have closed ur facebook. no reply. This was on a wednesday.
Friday evening the Police arrested me for rape.
I asked them what am i supposed to have done, and they said she told them that after entering my flat, i grabbed her by the hair, and pulled her jeans down and forced myself upon her.
I looked at the policeman and said, fantastic, can you call your forensics and take some items, they said they only wanted the clothes i was wearing. so i told them no you dont do this to me, you get someone here now to take my items so i can prove what happened.
Then a plainclothes policeman turned up and they all seemed to be confused, i made them take my sofa covers as thay will show nothing happened there, then i made them take my bedsheets as that will prove she was naked there, and then i gave them a condom which would show i never came. then i gave them my comp to show the messages she sent and my mobile to prove what i and she had sent.
I was then taken to give my video, and told she was also there giving her evidence, then after that they drove me home and told me not to worry to much.
Then on the sat afternoon she went to the police station and gave her video, and i was never asked to go back or questioned.
Last friday i was charged with rape, and next week im going to the magistrates and then Crown i believe the week after. As soon as i was charged i made a complaint about Police intervering with my case and that her father was a Policeman at the same station, and that i had calls from people 6 weeks ago stating that i will go to court and all forensics wont matter, also that a lawyer from another company has called me all about my case saying that the Police had given them my details.
The independant Police Complaints have stated that they have suspended their investigation until the end of my trail.
That is the basic side, now it gets more complicated.
I am a Priest of a small order group, and this girls uncle is a funeral director struggling, on the monday i told him i will not be going into busines with him because he has too many issues with others, during dinner his neice told me various details about his business and her other uncles habbits.
Tues i started talking to her, wed dinner and almost sex, fri arrested for rape.
I have spent years doing charity works and trying to be a modern Priest, now i feel i am being set up so they can claim money from the Government if i get convicted.
I do have a good lawyer now, but i feel so sick inside, and already i am being called names because i am a Priest, and you can guess what they are.
I have now paid out to have 24hr video in my lounge/kitchen/bedroom, just so this will never happen to me again. But i have lost all faith in the legal system, and terrified on after already telling the truth, how on earth can i be going to court, and then i have to convince strangers that i am innocent.
so any advice or comments are all welcome.
Thank you

[RFLH]

Hi and welcome to the forum - I'll move your thread to the correct place where you will get more replies.

[Faith]

I have moved your thread to the Falsely Accused section so that it may get more views.

Also, i have edited the name out of your post. This is a public forum, so best not to identify yourself.

[RFLH]

faith - I ws in the middle of that, I thought I was going madder than I already am!

[Faith]

Great minds and all that RFLH

[jwt]

To New friends

Thank you, some very good and helpfull quotes/

[Boys don't cry]

As a 47 yr old male, although i do look at least 10yrs younger
I poured us both a glass of wine,
I escorted her and help her to undress and we began,
I texted her she was lovely, and then again a few mins later after i noticed she had closed down her facebook account immediatly. a bit odd so i texted her i hope i have not done anything to upset you, its not my fault i think ur lovely and i see you have closed ur facebook. no reply.

They said she told them that after entering my flat, i grabbed her by the hair, and pulled her jeans down and forced myself upon her.

I made them take my sofa covers as thay will show nothing happened there, then i made them take my bedsheets as that will prove she was naked there, and then i gave them a condom which would show i never came. Then i gave them my comp to show the messages she sent and my mobile to prove what i and she had sent.
they drove me home and told me not to worry to much.
Then on the sat afternoon she went to the police station and gave her video, and i was never asked to go back or questioned.
Last friday i was charged with rape, and next week im going to the magistrates and then Crown i believe the week after.
As soon as i was charged i made a complaint about Police intervering with my case and that her father was a Policeman at the same station, and that i had calls from people 6 weeks ago stating that i will go to court and all forensics wont matter.
That is the basic side, now it gets more complicated.
I am a Priest
Tues i started talking to her, wed dinner and almost sex.

I do have a good lawyer now, but i feel so sick inside

I have now paid out to have 24hr video in my lounge/kitchen/bedroom, just so this will never happen to me again.Thank you

The fact that you are 47 looking 10 years younger won't affect any judgment.

The prosecution will say that you gave her some alcohol in order to abuse her.

You helped her to get undress is not very pleasant as well,they will believe that you wanted sex , took control of the situation and maybe forced her.

You texted her that she was lovely,found out she closed her facebook account suddenly and texted her again that she is lovely and you saw she did it.

The prosecution will think that there is a bit of stalking or harassment.

She told the police that you grabbed her,pull her jeans down and forced yourself upon her.
This is the reason why you are going to Crown court:to defend yourself and prove the jury that she lies in order to get a financial compensation.

I just found a bit strange that it is going so fast?

The police took the sofa covers and bedsheet to use as evidence and you admitted that she was naked in the bed.

You gave them a condom...It doesn't matter if you came or not,if there is only penetration it is enough.

Did she send you text messages after or not because they could help your defense?

It doesn't matter if her father is a policeman at the same station,it could be only a coincidence.
(One of the jury member in my case was a policeman and despite the barrister asking to change him,we had to deal with the situation).

You wrote "almost sex"? Did you have sex,yes or no?

If you are a priest won't make any difference again,it can only help with your character references.

You have now 24h video,I wish you had it installed before.

Anyway I hope your solicitor is as good as you said..
It is just your words aginst hers.
Best of luck and keep us informed.

[jwt]

Hello, Thank you for your reply, and as you can appreciate i have only put the outlines as still on going. Yes ofcourse there was penitration for a few mins, and everything i had written was how it happened, i cant change what i said or what i texted and at the time as i thought everything was normal, i had no idea that i would have been accused of anything. The truth of the matter is that almost every conversation spoken can be twisted.
As for all the forensics i made the Police take them, they never asked nor wanted.
The forensics of her medical assesment i was told has been dismissed because there were no marks or signs of anything, and because i had said that we had began sex, it would not be needed.
Yes i know it will all come down to a group of strangers deciding who is telling the truth or not, however, there are factors which will come up in the case to show a reason why this was brought against me.
I had the video equipment installed because of this, the fact that someone can make an accusation with no marks or scratches of anykind, goes on a proper date in a resturant, comes back willingly, then texts while she was with me, texts while she is leaving, closes down her facebook straight away, goes out drinking, then 2 days later im arrested. I even have a letter stating the Police are suspending their investigation of possible corruption until the outcome of the case. So yes i am very nervous, because the biggest mistake i have made all along was tell the truth it seems.

[Boys don't cry]

There are factors which will come up in the case to show a reason why this was brought against me.
Someone can make an accusation with no marks or scratches of anykind, ....
The biggest mistake i have made all along was tell the truth it seems.

I really hope that you have positive elements towards your defence because the prosecution and the accusator are usually not prepared against "surprises".
These elements can be extremely important especially if the are material,they will support your defence.

The police obviously didn't take your mobile,did you or your barrister managed to copy or print the texts if these are "the" factors?.

Unfortunately anyone can make a false accusation of rape:

Under section 1(1) SOA 2003 a defendant, A, is guilty of rape if:

_ A intentionally penetrates the vagina, anus or mouth of B (the complainant) with his penis;

_ B does not consent to the penetration; and,

_ A does not reasonably believe that B consents.

You can and are probably a charming man but most of us failed into the same trap because the serpent tempts the woman to eat from the tree of knowledge telling her that it will make her more like God.

We all believed that she did consent and suddenly...
(Some of us even from our own wife!)

The biggest mistake I have made as well was to tell the truth to the police.
The best thing I ever did and said was to tell the truth.
I was found unanimously "not guilty".
I only did reasonably believe that she consented.

Please concentrate on the fact that she did consent,can you prove it (You wrote that she asked you to go in the bedroom but she will deny it)

You are a priest,someone who should be respected.
You would never rape because you are an honorable man who has believes in respect,kindness...
I would only had:keep faith but I am sure that you must have more than anyone on this website.
Take care.

[Faith]

As for all the forensics i made the Police take them, they never asked nor wanted.

Why? Sounds like you were very on the ball for someone who wasn't expecting a visit from the police...

What troubles me (and what would no doubt trouble a jury too) is that, while awaiting trial on a rape charge, you actually invited another stranger into your home for sex. This is incredible behaviour for someone in your situation.

[Boys don't cry]

@Faith

I must have missed this part,where is it stated that he invited someone else to have sex?

@jwt

It doesn't matter what you gave or didn't want to the police.
You admitted that you had sex with her,sorry but this is enough for them.

They took clothes from me that I was not even wearing the night when we had consentual sex.
They maybe took pictures but will definitely show the jury your covers and sheets as evidence against you.

I read again your post and feel a bit disturbed about the video (cctv) installed in your bedroom,I am not sure this is a good idea.
Normally you get this for security reason,not to prove that you are innocent of something?

[Faith]

I appear to have misread...

Tues i started talking to her, wed dinner and almost sex, fri arrested for rape

This implied to me that this was a second person as he said : Then it gets more complicated...

I have read it incorrectly.

[jwt]

Hello and yes i know that the Police are just doing there job and all common sense goes out of the window, i have to put my whole life in the hands of my lawyer that he can show to a jury that i am being honest. As you said the truth goes against you, and for you. I hope that they are just to confident and we can catch them out, either way, i am sure the truth will come out. I hope so, and it did for you once.
I was adivised by the Church to install it, because too many accusations are made towards us as Priests, and i have all the signs and everytime anyone enters my home i explain to them about the CCTV.
I actually feel a lot safer now with it, and what ever happens i know i did nothing wrong, it was consented, and what ever i say or do now, i have to face the legal system to prove it.
It is herself that has lied, and her family and friends, i am hopeing that people will be able to see through all of that, as you said, and what i tell everyone, Faith.

[Rights Fighter]

The beginning of the opening post is this: After my wife returned to her country with our children last year..........

You are a priest,someone who should be respected.
You would never rape because you are an honorable man who has believes in respect,kindness...
I would only had:keep faith but I am sure that you must have more than anyone on this website.
Take care.

So, you are a priest who as soon as your wife and children are out of the picture, you set about seeing another woman.

BDC said 'You are a priest, someone who should be respected. Well yes - usually. But respect for the priesthood flies out of the window once the jury hear that you are deliberately set out to cheat on your wife and your children.

CCTC in your bedroom - do you not think that the Crown might not say 'that's there so he can record his sexual exploits while his wife is away...'

You really have not thought this through, have you?

[Faith]

So, you are a priest who as soon as your wife and children are out of the picture, you set about seeing another woman.

BDC said 'You are a priest, someone who should be respected. Well yes - usually. But respect for the priesthood flies out of the window once the jury hear that you are deliberately set out to cheat on your wife and your children.

CCTC in your bedroom - do you not think that the Crown might not say 'that's there so he can record his sexual exploits while his wife is away...'

You really have not thought this through, have you?

RF, you have put what I have been thinking in a much more succinct and understandable manner than I could.
Bit in Bold: Same thought struck me when I read that you gave the police bedsheets, condoms etc, jtw. What prompted you to do this? And what do you think it might prove...you aren't contesting that sex took place after all...