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Even if they could not communicate verbally they would be able to communicate 'get off me I don't want to do this' with a poke in the eye. Or similar - if you get my drift.
If you know they cannot communicate consent then surely you do not make a request for sex anyway.
Just because somebody has BPD or has a form of Aspergers does not preclude them from being raped.
In fact they are more likely to be at risk by virtue of the fact that they are more vulnerable than most people.
I would look for a different line of defence if I were you.
I want to know of another cases where mentally ill women are intact crying rape ..as it will explain a lot of things..
She is a mentally ill girl. She told you what she didn't want to do and you penetrated her body with an object. You say this is a FA and that she is crying rape, but you have admitted to doing it. Its not some plod fit up, YOU shoved a carrot into her and she told someone that she didn't want to do it.
That is the definition of rape.
Laugh at your problems, everybody else does. The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.
She is a mentally ill girl. She told you what she didn't want to do and you penetrated her body with an object. You say this is a FA and that she is crying rape, but you have admitted to doing it. Its not some plod fit up, YOU shoved a carrot into her and she told someone that she didn't want to do it.
That is the definition of rape.
I thought I should re-read the OP as I had forgotten what this 'story' was about in full. Yes, she told the OP she did not want to be penetrated with a foreign object in her anus. It seems you talked her into it regardless of her feelings on the matter. Possibly she submitted as opposed to giving consent.......
I also note you said in your OP:
have really been through a bad time i met a girl online on plenty of fish and exchanged mobile numbers . we had a naughty chat on phone and decided to meet she started of texting (all this is evidence) me that she had eczema on her left breast also about that she don't do anal or oral sex when i said we could make do with her right breast.she said she will let me look at her naked and take pics of her on these texts
For somebody who you now claim cannot communicate, she appears to have communicated a hell of a lot to you - according to you. You cannot have it both ways.
she started of texting (all this is evidence) me that she had eczema on her left breast also about that she don't do anal or oral sex when i said we could make do with her right breast.
I asked her jokingly if she was really serious about no oral and anal in her texts. she took this question very to the point so i asked to give me a kiss down there and she gave me a little ....
I asked her if we could have some fun with a carrot . if she was ok with anal .
she said yes and put it in her .... initially she liked it but it hurt a bit later.
she also let me take few pics of her where she is smiling
Any indication that she was not up for it --
I am getting charged -- i don't see how this happened as there simply is no sufficient evidence...
guys please help and educate me ?? surely if the complainant has exchanged messages about sex , let me take naked pics of her whilst she is smiling ?
First she said "No" to certain things or that she wasn't into this kind of things but you asked her...
The pictures might be the elements that will save you if you took them during...but not before or after.
"Any indication that she was not up for it" Yes, she told you "No",that she was not "up for it"
"I am getting charged -- i don't see how this happened as there simply is no sufficient evidence."
Sorry but there is:
She previously told you that she was not "up for these kind of relations"but you asked her for them.
[QUOTE=Faith;30040]Well if we're not, a jury won'teither.
well would a jury convict a innocent man who dated a woman with hidden aspergers.. a girl who started sexy messages .. went back willingly to his house after knowing he lives on his own ( agreeing in texts to have sex )then crying rape just cause he could not get it up or did not like the type of sex ..and then she poses full naked smiling for him -- he is also a gentleman in dropping her home --- he had no clue he had done anything wrong unit .... he was told
if ur saying the jury will think this man is not innocent then i have no faith in the system.. apologies but it sounds incredible to me ..
its better that you realise that now - people have been sent down on less evidence than that. Sorry.
And God promised men that good and obedient wives would be found in all corners of the world. Then made the world round .... and laughed and laughed and laughed ..
also i think my detailed version of events is corroborated multiple times -- her version of events contradicts some of the texts like she claims i tricked her to go back to mine whilst there is a text messages considering that option.. she accepts to kissing ... she will also have to account for a phone call she got where she answered saying everything was fine everything was ok ...
u tell me if one is raped there will be at least a little something on ones face showing u r unhappy == just after a alleged rape u would smile to let him take naked pics and pose for him ..--- and wld u let the person who allegedly raped u drop u back -- come on give me a break ..
When you will be in Crown court,you will have to answer any kind of questions multiple times.
So you'll have to be prepared for anything.
The prosecution might tell you that this girl just wanted to have some fun but afterwards was frightened to be at your place and she
did what you demanded her to do.
She couldn't call anyone and felt vulnerable so she let you drove her back and answered on the phone that everything was ok
just for you not to insist and to leave her alone.
I know it sounds twisted but unfortunately some people are and in court once again you can't make any mistake.
look through the threads - you will find a few examples.
And God promised men that good and obedient wives would be found in all corners of the world. Then made the world round .... and laughed and laughed and laughed ..
When you will be in Crown court,you will have to answer any kind of questions multiple times.
So you'll have to be prepared for anything.
The prosecution might tell you that this girl just wanted to have some fun but afterwards was frightened to be at your place and she
did what you demanded her to do.
She couldn't call anyone and felt vulnerable so she let you drove her back and answered on the phone that everything was ok
just for you not to insist and to leave her alone.
I know it sounds twisted but unfortunately some people are and in court once again you can't make any mistake.
ok please throw possible twisted questions at me -- and ill answer , i have a clear conscious but its not enough in this justice system .. .. i thought the law was in safe hands and could be trusted but it all seems dodgy == i got other feedback which claims the absence of consent has to be proved beyond reasonable doubt but it does not look like it
what are typical questions asked by prosecution ??
also i have downloaded some of this womans face book pages where she is swearing at here 13 year old friend calling her a two faced cow etc ... also fb updates where she is depressed and thickens she is a no-body , also her likes for staying sane , personality disorder network , mental illness awareness etc
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