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    I endured about 7 hours of absolute hell the worse period in my life Jury was called back 6 times and asked questions then said they could not reach a verdict.I was so upset I could not speak crying and felt ill afterwards.So looks if I have to go through it all again.Now I am really frightened.I have got more evidence .now it is small pieces but it does cut through more of the lies she has told.

    Does anyone know if we can use witness or complainants testimony in the first trial to show they are lying in the second trial.After all it was a statement given under oath and should be heard

    Thank you for support and I hope you will continue to support me and advise me where you are able to .Could we find out if she has already applied for compensation yet.

    many many thanks to everyone

    I will keep you posted hopefully I will be able to offer advise and support to others as i have been given here.

  • #2
    I don't know the answer to your question about whether you can use testimony from the first trial in the second but I would look on it as if you were sitting an exam.

    You've done the 'mock' exam & now know what questions you will be asked and more importantly your barrister now knows where your accusers weaknesses are and can probe deeply at these.

    Hopefully the Crown will relook at the case & offer no evidence the second time, but best to stay strong and be prepared. The positive is that half (maybe more!) of the jury thought you were not guilty.

    Thanks for coming back & updating us, lots of folks were worried about how things went. You've just been through the equivalent of a marathon: you're bound to feel exhausted, but after a few days you're be thinking 'bring it on'
    'What doesn't kill you makes you stronger'

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    • #3
      Morning Sadman

      Thank you for updating us, we have all been with you these last few days eagerly awaiting a result for you.

      I am so sorry that you have to endure this dreadful ordeal for a second time although as casehardened said you are now aware of all the evidence against you and can be stronger.

      Sending you lots of hugs x

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      • #4
        im not in the best place myself mate but was worried when you didnt post glad your back

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        • #5
          Well, it's not the best news in the world, but it's not a disaster either.
          As others have said, a hung jury means that at least half of the jurors thought you were innocent. They BELIEVED you.
          Holding a trial is hugely expensive. Hopefully the CPS will look again at the case and decide not to proceed.
          Thanks for letting us know, we were all worried about you.

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          • #6
            I'm sorry to read this sadman - but I echo what Saffron has said.
            And God promised men that good and obedient wives would be found in all corners of the world. Then made the world round .... and laughed and laughed and laughed ..

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            • #7
              I have to admit I honestly thought the worst had happened when you didn't update.

              I am so happy to be hearing from you.

              A hung jury must mean that things really did go to the wire but there simply wasn't enough to convict you. Courts seem to like answers that go one way or the other and you've ended up bang in the middle.

              The prosecution must now weigh up if it is in the publics interest to go for a second shot. If the public, via the jury, are saying neither yes nor no then it's going to be a real hard decision for them as it could really swing either way especially now that you are armed with all the details and able to work more rapidly towards providing defensive replies to them.

              What is your legal team saying?
              Wow... A signature option!

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              • #8
                thank god your back.
                i agree with earlier piost second time round is the exam and you have just had the mock. im sure you will get the result you deserve in the end

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by sadman View Post
                  I endured about 7 hours of absolute hell the worse period in my life Jury was called back 6 times and asked questions then said they could not reach a verdict.I was so upset I could not speak crying and felt ill afterwards.So looks if I have to go through it all again.Now I am really frightened.I have got more evidence .now it is small pieces but it does cut through more of the lies she has told.

                  Does anyone know if we can use witness or complainants testimony in the first trial to show they are lying in the second trial.After all it was a statement given under oath and should be heard

                  Thank you for support and I hope you will continue to support me and advise me where you are able to .Could we find out if she has already applied for compensation yet.

                  many many thanks to everyone

                  I will keep you posted hopefully I will be able to offer advise and support to others as i have been given here.


                  Hi sadman. The three bits I have highlighted above are questions for you to ask your solicitor.

                  It is possible to find out if she has claimed compo but if she has, that in itself won't help. What might help is to clarify what she told them in her application - whether what she alleged to them goes beyond what she has alleged to the police. Barrister can put an application in to obtain this evidence.

                  Ask the solicitor.
                  People Appealing Convictions of Sexual Offences ~http://www.pacso.co.uk

                  PAFAA details ~ https://pacso.co.uk/pafaa-people-aga...ions-of-abuse/

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                  • #10
                    We will never know how the jury went - whether it was 9 - 3 innocent or guilty or whether the figures are different: 8 - 4, or 7 - 5 o r 6 - 6.

                    Hopefully the complainant will not want to go through it herself, again.
                    People Appealing Convictions of Sexual Offences ~http://www.pacso.co.uk

                    PAFAA details ~ https://pacso.co.uk/pafaa-people-aga...ions-of-abuse/

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                    • #11
                      Hi there, so glad to hear from you Sadman. I'm sorry that it looks like you may have to go through the whole traumatic thing again but it is at least half a victory - and I guess that you now know what the prosecution are throwing at you and in which way.
                      Very best wishes to you at this time
                      Jen
                      False Accusers Beware: You have chosen to dine at the Karma Cafe. There is no menu: you will just get what you deserve.

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                      • #12
                        Sorry to hear this sadman.

                        Is there any chance the cps will just throw the towel in ?

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                        • #13
                          From what I understand a hung jury may result in a retrial.

                          It's not automatic.

                          Nothing is a certainty unfortunately. I would seek the opinion of your legal team.
                          Wow... A signature option!

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                          • #14
                            Hi Sadman
                            Happy to hear from you but sorry you have to pass it again.
                            Now I am sure that you are tired but you must feel more confident as you are prepared.
                            This time I am confident that you will get it right.
                            Non,je ne regrette rien.

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                            • #15
                              Don't let us down Sadman.
                              Non,je ne regrette rien.

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