Hi everyone

[SW75]

Hi Raptorace

I completely understand how you feel. My dad is more than willing to do something extreme to even the score (and then some) as his health is very poor! I can't let him of course, primarily because they (and my accuser) are not worth losing my dad over.

I don't know about you, but suicide has crossed my mind many times in my disbelief of the situation. Thankfully my daughters keep me alive (for them), although I feel I've lost my spark for life hugely (I used to be happy-go-lucky too).

I read an article on the net about a lecturer / professor who was accused of rape by a student. If I remember or can find out his name, I'll link it as it will all seem very familiar to you as it does to me. Police encouraging the allegation stating to his accuser that there would be no come back on his accuser whatsoever even if no further action is taken. The overt lack of common sense also comes through. Common sense should have told the police that the story was ridiculous and didn't fit the evidence and his accuser's action. The lecturer said that anything that clearly didn't fit with the accusation was dismissed or ignored by the police as they build a case. Surely they should be building a fair and even picture? But they don't.

It's now 5 years since the allegation was made against me. My accuser made a mirror allegation of rape against a senior member of St John's ambulance too (forced vaginal sex). The same female police officer as was dealing with my case attended after being called in by social services. Having talked to the police, she then was on record saying that it now wasn't rape, it was all consensual and she didn't want it to affect the case against me... sounds very much like the police told her to do this! At least she has a false allegation of rape on record though.

She was known to social services as a dangerous individual in terms of seduction attempts and allegations against males... a very reliable source contacted me through a close friend following my arrest, assuring me of this, that she'd done this before, and not to worry as it would all come out... but lots of corrupt ass-covering then has clearly gone on, as this never ever came to light! I know the person who passed on the information to me, but don't know her name. Lots of people who have been wronged and lots of corruption going on in my case, and a disregard for the law and honesty. If only all of these people could be united and go public... but I suspect people will fear for careers, etc and will be scared to help.

Why do they make it so easy for people to use this powerful weapon without any fear of punishment. The police positively encourage it.

I made a complaint to the IPCC ('Independent' Police Complaints Commission). It was belated, but I cited my depression and anxiety as being the reason for this. They made sure it was belated in that they dated it not from the cessation of police involvement, but from the allegation being made.

Ridiculously, the police responded by saying that they would normally consider illness in a belated complaint but that they wouldn't in my case. A politician I saw briefly stated the obvious - it isn't a police decision to make any way! The supposedly 'independent' IPCC, then did exactly what the police told them to do, didn't listen to any of my arguments, and dismissed my complaint as being 'out of time.' Corruption and ass-covering everywhere.

What bugs the hell out of me is that my eldest daughter is very disabled. I used to be able to provide for her very well and see her often. Now my earning potential has been stripped from me, I struggle to be able to afford to get to her as often as we'd like, etc. And the birthdays, christmases, etc that have been stolen away from us thanks to a false allegation makes me so hateful and angry for her and our relationship.

[SW75]

PS I feel exactly the same. I don't feel I can move on either until some degree of fairness is achieved. 5 years of fighting so far. It really affects relationships and life hugely, but I can't just let it go... and the Disclosure Scotland / CRB issue tells me it isn't going to let me go either

[SW75]

PPS and NFA stands for No Further Action I'm guessing

[J&PVTHW]

Hi Guys

I have been reading your comments today and completely understand how you feel. My son has been falsely accused by his step sister which has completely devestated our family.

The lies that have been told with not a shred of evidence to back it up is unbelievable. From day 1 the arresting officer has assumed my son to be guilty, only interested in trying to gain fabricated evidence to support the accuser BUT not interested in looking at evidence to disprove her dreadful lies.

I am struggling to live my life on a daily basis, my son being only 18 is oblivious really to the seriousness of the accusation. I am so angry with the way the case has been handled and find i want to vent my frustration at the world. I am normally not an agressive person but have tears of pure anger almost every day.

This allegation has affected every part of our family life, my son being excluded from our family home because our 14 year old daughter also lives there BUT social services and the police are not interested in speaking to my daughter so that tells me that they are uninterested in the truth. My daughter is more than willing to tell any authorities that her brother has never ever tried anything inappropriate with her and is willing to make a statement to that extent. The police although are not interested.

I am ashamed to be British, i have lost all faith in our justice system and feel like taking the law into my own hands.

I have taped somebody stating that the officer in charge is spreading rumers about my son to the public and i fear for my son's safety. I want to make a complaint about this officer but would like as much info from anybody who can advise me on how best to go about it.

I dont want to make a complaint until after my son's bail hearing which isnt until the end of this month, what is the timescale for making complaints?

[SW75]

Hi

Complaints wise, only going on my limited experience, I believe you have to contact the IPCC (Independent Police Complaints Commission) in the first instance. I was told I had a year to lodge a complaint from the point of my arrest. If the outcome of the IPCC investigation is unsatisfactory to you, I think then you can consider taking legal action against the police.

I have to say the hatred I bear the police is almost overwhelming. Far too much power and they know that, whatever they do, they are nigh on untouchable. IN my experience, very few lawyers are interested in challenging the police, possibly because of a belief in a very flawed system, and partly possibly because they fear their lives being made difficult from whatever quarter. There also may well be an element of them being aware that they will get nowhere challenging the police - courts, etc seem to be hugely protective of 'the police.'

I'm sure there is the odd decent policeman or woman, but, with that power, and the belief that they will stick together and are nigh on untouchable, I suspect few would hesitate at playing power games, bending rules, etc.

My stepson, who has mild autistic spectrum disorder, was taken into care as an emergency measure on him making allegations against my ex partner. Having lived with them all for years, I knew he was the problem. But the police showed no interest in his twin sister's story (never even talked with her) or my story (refused to talk with me too). It all sorted in the end as he showed his true colours in care.

Once a decision though to take my ex to court was made, apparently the person who ultimately decided to proceed (I think it was the Procurator Fiscal vaguely frmo memory) would lose face (we were told) by backing down. Even though it had become absolutely apparent to even the police that my ex wasn't really the issue. Lots of stress and expense and the judge ultimately discharged my ex partner. Long story.

Same in my case. The police seem to just assume you're guilty from the outset. Then embark relentlessly on building a case against you. Discarding and ignoring anything that conflicts with this. It's truly insane.

When I was interviewed, they referred to my accuser as the victim throughout. A huge assumption and a taste of what came.

How idiotic are the government - the very nature of rape allegations makes it difficult to secure a conviction (and based on our stories thankfully so). Unfortunately, certain groups (blinkered to this) will drive aggressively to get the conviction rate up. Statistics to make the government and authorities look good... It really worries me as to how many people are convicted of rape (essentially on circumstantial evidence almost universally) and are imprisoned who are innocent of a crime.

The police (who, I'm not certain among them) released my name, etc to the media immediately upon my arrest. The 2 officers (i hesitate to refer to them in pleasant terms) approached me and told me that the press have got wind of my details and arrest, but it wasn't the police who had released anything to them! I did mention Colin Stagg - perfect example of the police spreading what amounts to malicious gossip, circumventing the legal system (for what it is).

I can't imagine how you must feel - powerless, angry and hateful I'd suspect. I'm sure you've found that your son's stepsister has been spirited away from contact with attention and sympathy being lavished upon her. The attention and the desire to adopt the victim role played a huge part in my accuser doing what she did to me.

I totally agree. I'm ashamed to be British too. The legal system is truly dire unless it can offer redress for what has happened to us.

If you wish to make a complaint, perhaps some of those who are a bit more experienced in these things could guide you. In terms of timing, etc.

[lawlessone2009]

I can't remember when it was but the charge of oral rape was brought in a few years back (used to be indecent assault) due to the Government trying to increase rape convictions to meet their own targets.

You may not understand the concept of it but it is possible to (now in law) orally rape a person. A genuine victim is probably scared still of doing anything such as biting in case the assault turns more violent.

If the penis enters the mouth of a sleeping person (if only for a nano second) then consent has not been given - because the person was sleeping, even if they wake up immediately afterwards.

These things DO happen. I often get the guilty attempting to hide among the innocent and it is clear on wasting my time reading the trial paperwork exactly what has happened. It is not impossible at all, or difficult to orally rape a person.

I'm not really implying it's not possible and sorry that I keep dragging up the 'biting' part... Just that everyone seems to say they'd bite it!

Circumstances could well be different in reality but I wouldn't imagine doing anything else BUT biting it. Wouldn't imagine a guy could be too violent if he's minus an organ with blood gushing everywhere....

I also fail to see what the point is in orally raping someone who is sleeping. Then again the allegation against me states just that which I do know means that consent cannot exist.

Luckily it was a present day allegation so forensic evidence will hopefully clear my name. Without it I believe the allegation cannot proceed as 'corroboration' is required meaning her word and evidence 'x'. I didn't go anywhere near her in the manner alleged so there won't be any corroboration. My belief is that she believes that by alleging oral rape the actual evidence only need be her word and some circumstantial inputs. I like to have faith that 'justice' still exists in some form or another and with time she will realise she's been caught lying and admit to such.

Luckily I am in Scotland so 'stalinism' is a little restricted by corroboration although the attack on this is constant and relentless...

[lawlessone2009]

Hi

Complaints wise, only going on my limited experience, I believe you have to contact the IPCC (Independent Police Complaints Commission) in the first instance. I was told I had a year to lodge a complaint from the point of my arrest. If the outcome of the IPCC investigation is unsatisfactory to you, I think then you can consider taking legal action against the police.

The IPCC is anything BUT independent. It is PROTECTIONISM of the highest order. Police Officers investigating Police Officers cannot in any shape or form be 'independent'. The very fact that these morons exist shows clearly that Hitler winning the war might not have been so bad after all (please don't take this in exact context, it's only a rant!).

Anyway, you'll know this.

I used the IPCC a few years ago. Useless. I wouldn't consider using them again, just drop the matter straight into court. Costs can be limited by self-representation which is more than possible. Personally I believe there should be 'public hearings' where members of the public sit on a panel (in a similar method to juries) and decide in non-legal terms (no pointless jargon to confuse people!) what the fair and proper outcome is when a member of the public takes on the might of the state.

Taking on the 'state' using the states assets (courts) is a somewhat limiting exercise. You need to play by their rules and even then the chances of loosing are greater than winning.

Juries are provided power in courts but unfortunately members of the public don't see that kind of power in any other walk of life which is one of the reasons this country is in such a mess.

[SW75]

The IPCC

I completely agree. The IPCC is there to protect police interests - not independent at all. In my case, a nod and a wink from police officers with influence resulted in my complaint being dismissed out of hand. Why on earth they call it 'independent' is beyond me! Much like the 'independent' GMC panels... that are well connected with the GMC and... employed by the GMC... yet termed independent.

I'd seriously consider self-representation, ideally with a solicitor with a belief in the difference between criminal and non-criminal (i.e. not being arrested and having your life destroyed on the only evidence showing consensual, entirely legal, sexual relationships). As embarassing (when your sex life is put on display for all to see) and foolish as my personal life was at the time, it wasn't illegal!

My listing now following the Disclosure Scotland 'investigation' (not an investigation at all) resulted from them telling me that they had to take the outcome of the GMC investigation as 'fact.' Even though it is using a civil standard of evidence (used very loosely in my case). I didn't appeal for 2 reasons: financial and understandable bad depression (didn't think I could face at the time going through it all again). I was under the impression from my legal team that this was the end of it and I could get on with my life and salvage something for my daughters... they told me they could only prevent my practising as a doctor. 2 years later, I get a letter from Disclosure Scotland... if there's ever a custody battle over my daughter, I suspect this will come up and I'll lose her... yet I've not committed a crime. I can't accept that.

My problem with self-representation is, I wouldn't have the first idea as to where to start. What do I need to do? What expenses would I be looking at?

Interestingly, in my case (was working in England at the time, but I'm Scottish too), there was not a single shred of evidence to support my accuser's changing tale. She even changed to a story of consent when interviewed by a psychologist during the police investigation!!! Then back to oral rape for the GMC hearing (version 3 of her story).

My barrister tore her story and lies to shreds. He even said her story is in tatters and made multiple submissions of no case to answer... but the panel were set on a course to destroy me. Given the police registering as an interested party, and the Strategic Health Authority had registered too (there flouting of regulations that could have supported my family and I through this was brazen and downright wicked).

My belief is that the police heavily influenced the outcome prior to the evidence being heard. My only explanation for the GMC panel's approach as they simply cherry picked evidence, ignored even their own expert witness reports, and destroyed not only my career, but much of my life.

The GMC barrister even questioned my love for my daughter (really low) referring to relationships I'd had that came to light following the false allegation. I was left speechless. All I wanted to say was, how can you prepare for a false allegation of a very serious crime out of maliciousness and spite. If the allegation hadn't been made and taken so seriously despite the evidence, I'd very likely still have a career.

It smacks very much of trying to find a degree of justification with hindsight for the destruction they wrought.

Can anyone help advise me or take this forward to find at least a degree of justice and peace of mind?