Son falsely accused of raping step sister !

[RFLH]

I have a feeling that they may try for a plea bargain if they think they have a weak case. However tempting you think it may be when told that it will shorten time inside - not tempting when you haven't done anything in the first place. They will mess with your mind.

[J&PVTHW]

Thank you RFLH is this what genuinely happens ? We are novices when it comes to dealing with the plod so all advice is really appreciated.

My son has done nothing wrong so will not be plea bargining, i have read that this does happen and am hoping our solicitor will step in if this is the line the police decide to go down.

i do feel as though the officer has messed us about, it no longer seems to be about the 'truth' making me ashamed to be british.

[Denise]

It def sounds like they do not have a solid case

When the accuser says One thing and the accused says the opposite, it leaves them baffled

But I wouldn't trust the police, if they were totally on the ball and neutral, they would've looked into the lies of our accusers and found them out plus charge them but they didn't bother

Our duty solicitor said my son was very good on his arrest interview, he's not the best at getting his point across but when you're telling the truth I guess it's easier for them xx

[J&PVTHW]

Confused

I have had some developments over the weekend, but i really dont know where to turn, who to trust or who to believe. I guess that is most people's dilema in situations like these.

I have been told that the police officer in charge has been bad mouthing my son to someone who was questioned in relation to my son. He called him a paedophile and made suggestions that he was a danger. With this being said, another person who was also in the room when this was said has decided to tell anybody she comes into contact with that my son is a rapest.

My son is now terrified to go outside, he has had 3 boys chase him down the street and has had whispers on a bus and was pointed at.

Surely this should not be allowed to go on ??

I am unsure as i said above on what to do, do i put in a complaint about the officer stating the above, i have no proof yet just somebody's word which could easily be lies. The officer is going to deny all knowledge if confronted surely.

But, this now puts my family in a very vunerable position.

HELP !!

[RFLH]

no - its not on - if you can get a statement from the person he said these things to it would be a start.

If you are experiencing intimidation than get each incident logged with the police, it will help you in the end.

[J&PVTHW]

Do i take the statement myself from the person or do i contact my solicitor ??

I am thinking about taping the conversation what are your thoughts??

I am also unsure whether to go to the police at this stage as it may harm my son's case. We still havent heard anything from the police and i know we have a couple of weeks yet to wait.

I dont want to speak to anybody with just hearsay i want to produce some kind of evidence. I also think that the officer might be trying to discredit the person who has told me what he's been saying as i think he originally went to this person asking her to discredit my son. When she has refused and has spoken up for my son this is when he has suggested peodaphile to her to frighten her. If i then go to the police it is her word against the officer, she will be called a liar and IF this case goes to court her statement will be used as such. I wonder if this is all another big game by the police to put as much pressure on my son and me, intimidate us but not directly causing us as much anguish as possible.

I am wondering if i just need to collect this evidence and keep it under my hat incase this goes to court what do you think??

[RFLH]

I'd contact your solicitor and do as they say before you do anything.

But make sure you keep a log yourself about the incidents - as much detail as you can remember. It may come in useful.

[J&PVTHW]

I was wondering if somebody could advise me on what to do. There have been a few developments ove the last week.

My son is now experiencing abusive phone calls from blocked numbers and has been hit in the face as he walked home from town. He has been told that people are going to kill him if he shows his face outside his own front door and i am now terrified for his safety. I dont know whether to report this to the arresting officer but fear this might make the situation worse bearing in mind what he has been saying about my son.

I have also recorded a conversation with the person who stated that the officer was calling my son a peodophile. I dont want to do anything at the moment in time for fear of the officer making things worse for my son. I would also be greatful if anybody could point me in the right direction of what the proceedure would be to make a complaint?

[RFLH]

if you're unsure of going to the police - ask your solicitor for their advice.

I'm sorry that your lad is going through this too.

[Rights Fighter]

I was wondering if somebody could advise me on what to do. There have been a few developments ove the last week.

My son is now experiencing abusive phone calls from blocked numbers and has been hit in the face as he walked home from town. He has been told that people are going to kill him if he shows his face outside his own front door and i am now terrified for his safety. I dont know whether to report this to the arresting officer but fear this might make the situation worse bearing in mind what he has been saying about my son.

I have also recorded a conversation with the person who stated that the officer was calling my son a peodophile. I dont want to do anything at the moment in time for fear of the officer making things worse for my son. I would also be greatful if anybody could point me in the right direction of what the proceedure would be to make a complaint?

All of this is down to the officer disclosing information to the public that has not been proved. A complaint to the Police Standards dept is a start plus write to the Chief Constable in your area for good measure.

This officer has taken it upon himself to become judge and jury - he's not been tried yet so this will be a breach of PACE somewhere along the line. Where's VJ when you need her!!!!

[felix]

Don't go directly to the IPCC as some people have done. Not terribly helpful....

[Saffron]

Be very careful about going to the police about this. They could argue that your son is not safe and should be remanded for his own protection.
As others have said, run it by your sol as a matter of urgency.
good luck.

[J&PVTHW]

It is now less than 3 weeks until my son has to answer bail. We were told by the arresting officer that he would be re-interviewing my son before the case is passed to CPS. This has not happened !! I am now getting extremely anxious as the time is getting nearer and so scared for my son.

There are so many fantastic people on here who have done all the right things like i have in collecting evidence to disprove the liar yet are still convicted. I cannot understand how many injustices happen on almost a daily basis.

Rights Fighter I have decided to wait until my son answers bail before making any complaints about the officer. I have spoken to my solicitor who has told me to make 3 copies of the taped convo. I feel the way this officer has handled my son's case is appauling and totally unprofessional. Surely this isnt the right way to behave??

We have collected lots of daming evidence against my son's accuser but am unsure what we will be allowed to use. In a facebook account she states she has never had sex !! This was during the time my son was supposed to be raping her.

I just feel like i need to be venting my anger and frustration but am aware that i need to keep a cool head until after the bail hearing. Life is difficult, still no sign of social services to speak to my daughter so my son and daughter cannot be alone or stay at home together. My solicitor has told us not to contact social services ourselves but i feel that they should have a duty of care to my daughter. Nobody has asked her if she has experienced anything. I just feel frustrated.

[gem]

hang in their J not long to go now. i would think you having the evidence you have will go a long way with the cps. as for social services leave well alone.
they will only get involved if your son is charged and found guilty.
fantastic that you have got some damning evidence against your sons accuser

[J&PVTHW]

Hi Gem

We have kept the evidence to ourselves at the moment and not passed it to the CPS. Our solicitor has suggested that we only let the police see our evidence if and when my son is charged. Do you think the evidence that we have collected is damming to our accuser?? I am unsure of what is allowed as evidence and what is not. Surely where she is called a liar by her own auntie during the same time as she is accusing my son is evidence??

We have 3 weeks left until my son has to answer bail do you think the file would have gone to CPS for a decision by now?

We have heard nothing now from the arresting officer for over a month now even though he stated he would like to interview my son before the case is passed to CPS. This has not happened.

I know its not long to go now but i am getting really worried as its getting closer to the time. I have read some dreadful miscarrage of justice stories over the past few days, one that really sticks in my mind is traumatised Rose. I cried buckets when reading her story. I'm worried sick this same injustice is happening time and time again to innocent people.

Social services are a shower of ****. where is their duty of care to my daughter? Why arent they making sure that she has not been abused??