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  • #46
    if they're offering a plea bargain now, to me that sounds as if they're panicking they may lose a conviction.

    Hang in there,sometimes juries aren't as dumb as they look!
    And God promised men that good and obedient wives would be found in all corners of the world. Then made the world round .... and laughed and laughed and laughed ..

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    • #47
      Wishing you all the best

      I'm so sorry but I don't know what else to say Rose (but that's not because I'm thinking negatively) it's just that I don't have that experience

      Hang in there girl xx
      I live in hope it's over forever

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      • #48
        Originally posted by traumatisedrose
        still hearing prosecutions case....they are making him out to be a total monster. The penetration girl has padded her story out further and is claiming he has been abusing her for 4 years now. 2008 been mentioned but she cant remember if it was june...or january My partner terrified as obviously he cant prove where he was if he does not know when the alledged incidents took place.
        She had about 10 mins of cross examination (aggressive not allowed as she self harming) and defence barrister had 5 points on defence just on that limited time. she turned the tears on and it got adjourned till tomorrow. She was tripping herself up on the simplest questions claiming she did not understand.
        The prosecution is claiming she got the crime scene wrong as she is traumatised. My partner got offered another plea bargin...18 months and the register which he again refused. I am freaking out now Oh by the way...everything they done to me and the kids is not being used. How the heck does this justice system work? I am so worried now....what do you do if your partner is convicted but you know it to be false? How do i deal with the authorities? Any PM advice would be very much appreciated.
        Yes, why are they offering a plea bargain indeed?? Hang in there traumatisedrose; it is just the beginning and am sure your defense team will have enough ammunition. All these holes in their story can be used.

        How unfair that what these people do to you and your family are left out of the court.. why?? it is so unfair

        Sending you strength and courage vibes! and a big hug!

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        • #49
          Just keep trusting that the jury are very unlikely to be stupid. It sounds as if prosecution case is coming unravelled....

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          • #50
            Offering another plea bargain after the trial has started? Sounds like they are worried.....and any conviction is better than no conviction, as far as the CPS are concerned.
            Courage and Strength, Rose. Thinking of you.

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            • #51
              traumatisedrose, how are you today? hope things are going well..

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              • #52
                Oh, I'm so sorry that this has not gone your way TraumatisedRose. I have no advice to offer I'm afraid. What sort of thing was the barrister not allowed to bring to the court's attention. Could any of this be used for an appeal?
                Kind wishes to you
                Jen
                False Accusers Beware: You have chosen to dine at the Karma Cafe. There is no menu: you will just get what you deserve.

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                • #53
                  I am so very sorry to read this - juries are fickle. I'm also sorry that there is no chance of appeal and that your family has been blown apart.

                  Others will be along soon with more practical advice for you.
                  And God promised men that good and obedient wives would be found in all corners of the world. Then made the world round .... and laughed and laughed and laughed ..

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                  • #54
                    Traumatisedrose i am so sorry to hear what you said, please do not give up hope, RF will be able to advise on what you can do. My suggestion is that you get a second opinion on an appeal, RF has said many times that people are told that they cannot appeal by one barrister only to be told that they can by another.
                    i would suggest that if one of them admitted they lied then this may be grounds for appeal, likewise the fact that they have made your life hell. Good Luck, please dont give up

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                    • #55
                      I am so sorry that this has happened, it's terrible for you both especially when justice has not been seen to be done.
                      'What doesn't kill you makes you stronger'

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                      • #56
                        Dear Rose

                        I don't know what to say, none of you deserve this and my thoughts and good wishes go to you all

                        I really hope something good happens and you can appeal

                        Lots of love
                        Denise xxxxxx
                        I live in hope it's over forever

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                        • #57
                          I'm so, so sorry, this is terrible news.
                          Please do think about consulting a different legal team regarding an appeal. I believe RF's Solicitor Chris will undertake appeal work on Public Funding - perhaps you could give him a call.
                          Thinking of you

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                          • #58
                            I'm so sorry.
                            Do you have someone there who can offer some emotional support to you and your children?

                            I'm also thinking of you

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                            • #59
                              My word, I'm so sorry for this terrible news.
                              It will all be very raw right now, but soon you will be able to start picking up the pieces, dust yourself down and get ready for the next fight

                              I echo previous advice for you to seek alternate advice regarding grounds for appeal. Chris Saltrese is a wonderful option; you won't find a more experienced appeals solicitor in sexual crime related cases than him.

                              In the meantime, please try and make the most of your support networks (including here, friends, family and medical professionals)
                              You WILL get through this.
                              "Be sure your sin will find you out"

                              Numbers 32:23

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by traumatisedrose
                                Appeal will be virtually impossible

                                Why do you say that? Never give up! Boxing gloves on now Missus!
                                People Appealing Convictions of Sexual Offences ~http://www.pacso.co.uk

                                PAFAA details ~ https://pacso.co.uk/pafaa-people-aga...ions-of-abuse/

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