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  • #16
    Hello again,

    Sorry to read that your son is still going through the process but with regard to the bigger picture you have highlighted, you might be interested in the police's (unofficial/anonymous) take on it.

    In post #10 in this thread:

    http://www.daftmoo.org.uk/mooforum/s...ght=#post31005

    The Advocate has linked to Inspector Gadget's view on the validity of most rape allegation; I was saddened but not surprised by his article
    'What doesn't kill you makes you stronger'

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    • #17
      He's being charged entirely on his own word

      Are you completely sure about that? The counts on the indictment should reflect what the complainant has alleged, not what he has admitted to. Then it would be down to consent .....
      People Appealing Convictions of Sexual Offences ~http://www.pacso.co.uk

      PAFAA details ~ https://pacso.co.uk/pafaa-people-aga...ions-of-abuse/

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      • #18
        Originally posted by whatsgoingon? View Post
        Anyway, the next big date for my son is in the Crown Court for the first hearing - if anyone could explain to me what happens in this one, and how many more before the big one, I'd be grateful for info. ( Sorry if I've been ranting) Would also be interested on views on the global picture.
        hi sorry to hear your son got charged. the first crown court hearing would be just him confirming his identity; less than 10 minutes inside the court. The next one would be where he has to enter his plea against every charge. The first and second hearing could be spaced apart as four months.

        The second one they call it plea and case management hearing and this is when they also schedule the trial and for how many days; and also there would be discussion on the case if there are documents that need to be served. The trial could also be scheduled after 4 months from this hearing.. it depends on how busy the court is. this example of months is based on our case, it may differ of course but i hope it gives you an idea on this. I hope you are confident with your defense team.

        Hang in there.!

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Rights Fighter View Post
          Are you completely sure about that? The counts on the indictment should reflect what the complainant has alleged, not what he has admitted to. Then it would be down to consent .....
          That's as far as I know. The girl' can't remember' anything, there's no forensic evidence incriminating my son.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by fighter View Post
            hi sorry to hear your son got charged. the first crown court hearing would be just him confirming his identity; less than 10 minutes inside the court. The next one would be where he has to enter his plea against every charge. The first and second hearing could be spaced apart as four months.

            The second one they call it plea and case management hearing and this is when they also schedule the trial and for how many days; and also there would be discussion on the case if there are documents that need to be served. The trial could also be scheduled after 4 months from this hearing.. it depends on how busy the court is. this example of months is based on our case, it may differ of course but i hope it gives you an idea on this. I hope you are confident with your defense team.

            Hang in there.!

            Thanks alot. He's already had the first one. It all seems so long and drawn out.

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            • #21
              Did he have a solicitor present during interview? I am rather surprised that if he did, that he was advised/allowed to give such a free account.This would be one of the rare occasions I would have said I would have expected to see a 'no comment' interview.
              People Appealing Convictions of Sexual Offences ~http://www.pacso.co.uk

              PAFAA details ~ https://pacso.co.uk/pafaa-people-aga...ions-of-abuse/

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Casehardened View Post
                Hello again,

                Sorry to read that your son is still going through the process but with regard to the bigger picture you have highlighted, you might be interested in the police's (unofficial/anonymous) take on it.

                In post #10 in this thread:

                http://www.daftmoo.org.uk/mooforum/s...ght=#post31005

                The Advocate has linked to Inspector Gadget's view on the validity of most rape allegation; I was saddened but not surprised by his article
                http://www.daftmoo.org.uk/mooforum/s...ght=#post31005

                The Advocate has linked to Inspector Gadget's view on the validity of most rape allegation; I was saddened but not surprised by his article[/QUOTE]

                Thanks for this. Very interesting as is the Willoughby report (not sure that's the right spelling). I know of 5 genuine rapes between 1970-1985. Only one was ever reported, it was at knife-point, the guy received quite a long prison sentence. In the other cases the women concerned felt they either just wanted to get on with it (and possibly at the time, it seemed too daunting). It's probably the fact that women, unsupported by the legal system did put up with too much for too long that has made the worm turn so to speak. I don't know of anyone of my generation using it as a weapon, or reporting regretted behaviour under the influence of booze or drugs as rape or sexual assault, perhaps mistakenly. Is it that the citeria have changed? I think we all have to take some responsibility for our own actions, and that includes not getting so out of order that someone else makes the decisions for you. To me there are diffinately different types of rape. Unclear consent at a party or after a boozy evening is not the same as being forced to do something at knife-point.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Rights Fighter View Post
                  Did he have a solicitor present during interview? I am rather surprised that if he did, that he was advised/allowed to give such a free account.This would be one of the rare occasions I would have said I would have expected to see a 'no comment' interview.
                  The duty solicitor advised him. His present solicitor feels that a 'no comment' statement would have led to a charge of rape or attempted rape. To be quite honest, I don't know what they're basing their charge on. The only thing I can think of is that they're trying to link the two incidents. The other guy is charged with rape.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by whatsgoingon? View Post
                    The duty solicitor advised him. His present solicitor feels that a 'no comment' statement would have led to a charge of rape or attempted rape. To be quite honest, I don't know what they're basing their charge on. The only thing I can think of is that they're trying to link the two incidents. The other guy is charged with rape.

                    Normally I would say 'always give a free and frank interview' but in this case it appears he has talked himself into something when he had no idea what he was accused of.

                    If she had 'forgotten' and 'can't remember' then a no comment interview would have been the way to go as he cannot answer questions about something that the complainant cannot remember.

                    If he has filled in the blanks then that could give the police carte blanche to go ahead because as far as they are concerned they have a 'confession' and at trial it pivots on word against word.

                    Am I right in thinking he has not yet been charged?
                    Last edited by Rights Fighter; 3 August 2012, 07:17 PM.
                    People Appealing Convictions of Sexual Offences ~http://www.pacso.co.uk

                    PAFAA details ~ https://pacso.co.uk/pafaa-people-aga...ions-of-abuse/

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                    • #25
                      I think the lad has been charged as he has already appeared at court for the preliminary hearing.

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                      • #26
                        Thanks Saffron

                        I had seen this

                        My son went along to his bail interview for the 3rd time now to be told it's being put off again.
                        .... but missed the bit where he was charged. That's me trying to be clever and skim reading

                        Difficult when you're in a rush trying to read the whole lot.....being a little old lady with wonky eyes
                        People Appealing Convictions of Sexual Offences ~http://www.pacso.co.uk

                        PAFAA details ~ https://pacso.co.uk/pafaa-people-aga...ions-of-abuse/

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                        • #27
                          little? You're taller than I am
                          And God promised men that good and obedient wives would be found in all corners of the world. Then made the world round .... and laughed and laughed and laughed ..

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                          • #28
                            Darlin', everybody is taller than you xxx
                            People Appealing Convictions of Sexual Offences ~http://www.pacso.co.uk

                            PAFAA details ~ https://pacso.co.uk/pafaa-people-aga...ions-of-abuse/

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                            • #29
                              And God promised men that good and obedient wives would be found in all corners of the world. Then made the world round .... and laughed and laughed and laughed ..

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                              • #30
                                People Appealing Convictions of Sexual Offences ~http://www.pacso.co.uk

                                PAFAA details ~ https://pacso.co.uk/pafaa-people-aga...ions-of-abuse/

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