Sitting in crown court having a cup of tea

[daki]

In the case papers her friend gave a statement in which

She had called this friend as soon as the alleged offence happened she gave a diffrent account on the call and when they saw each other in person a week after it was diffrent to what she told police with no mention of what she lied to the police about and what I got charged with

[Casehardened]

At what point is the defence case statement done?

The obvious answer is as soon as possible but of course it's never as easy as that!

Whilst you can collect and collate as much relevant information as possible your solicitor can't really build this up into a defence statement until they seen all the prosecution material especially the accuser's statement.

The usual explanation for delays in handing over the CPS bundle is pressure of work but I suspect an element of gamesmanship comes into play; after all, the later the paperwork is handed over, the less time the defence has to work on their statement.

Of course this works both ways; the prosecution then will also see the defence statement late and may not have time to run it past their witnesses.

In the case papers her friend gave a statement in which

She had called this friend as soon as the alleged offence happened she gave a diffrent account on the call and when they saw each other in person a week after it was diffrent to what she told police with no mention of what she lied to the police about and what I got charged with

This sounds quite promising: If the friend's statement about what the accuser told her in the phone call made immediately after the alleged offence gives a substantially different account to that which the accuser will make in the witness box (or in the video evidence, whichever applies) your barrister will be able to cross-examine her on the reasons for this, thus hopefully giving the implication to the jury that she was adding to her story as time went on.

On the other hand she may simply say that she was too traumatised at the time to tell her friend everything!

[Rights Fighter]

Thanks case hardened.

At what point is the defence case statement done? And is it relevant that the liar told a friend a completely diffrent account of the alleged assault from what she told the police?

Defence Case Statement (DCS) can be done right from the beginning of procedures (after charge) - never a good idea as you don't know exactly what you are facing.

It should only be done once all disclosure has been obtained and scrutinised.

It should not show the whole of the defence otherwise you are allowing the Crown to see all you cards (strategy).

[worriedandconcerned]

In the case papers her friend gave a statement in which

She had called this friend as soon as the alleged offence happened she gave a diffrent account on the call and when they saw each other in person a week after it was diffrent to what she told police with no mention of what she lied to the police about and what I got charged with

daki sorry to go off the subject but are you using Narida as your barrister ?
I am using her for my case and she seems great doesnt she ?

[daki]

Yes I'm using Nerida and she seems very experienced. The liar called her friend as soon as it allegedly happened gave a diffrent account and even when they caught up week later was still a diffrent account given

[daki]

I'm starting to feel depressed and suicidal again, I got three months till

Trial I'm scared and thinking of taking loads of sleeping pills to end all this rubbish.

I got a message for another confrence with counsel, is this normal? They said they need to go over some things for defence statement to clarify issues.

I'm tired and just want out of everything

[Rights Fighter]

The more conferences you can get with counsel the better.

Please make use of this site

http://www.metanoia.org/suicide/

Please PM me

[Faith]

Daki, it feels awful right now but do not do anything rash or hasty without talking this through with somebody

You made a good step by posting up here how you felt.

Next step is to talk things through. Send RF a PM. If you would like some more support as well, you may also PM me.

Hang in there. This will not beat you. There is life after this.

[Boys don't cry]

Daki Daki Daki

Please,believe!!! I have been through this .Please pm me if you need,I will always be there.
If you are desperate for a barrister I will give you mine ,he is 40 years experienced in bombs,drugs,rape,tax,money,...,and he saved me.He is in London.
Call the samaritans,sometimes they feel more depress than you,so switch off and you will get another one,try your family and I would even give you a temporary one if you understand but please DAKI!!!
I know this is extremely hard but you must fight for your honour,for your name, for your family, for your friends, for your future, for your life,for the ones who believe in you DAKI.
FOR YOUR INNOCENCE.

[billykickass]

Daki you have to keep fighting domt give up for anything. Remember we are all here with you as well and no doubt hundreds more of your friends. Just try and keep your head up and fight a bit more your nearly there now.

[daki]

Thank you all. I'm still breathing. I hope I find the strength and motivation

To carry on.

[Rights Fighter]

Hi Daki and really pleased to see you have made it through last night.

I've sent you an important email so please look for it and see what you think.

[Saffron]

Hang in there, Daki. Don't let this vile accusation beat you.
I'm glad you made it through the night x

[Faith]

Daki, have you got a nominated person who you feel this way?
And have you considered visiting your GP? Suicidal thoughts are often born out of depression or serious events in life which we become unable to cope with. I'd imagine it's a little of both for you.

There have been two significant spells in my life where I have been strongly suicidal. In fact, once I carried an attempt through but thankfully it was unsuccessful (obviously)

Suicide is a cry for help...but when people say that it does not mean that a person is simply doing it for attention. In most cases, that is not the scenario. It is a very serious indication that something is badly wrong and that this person needs help NOW

You made it through a very tough night. I am so very proud of you for doing that...it makes you strong and it implies to me that there is a lingering doubt in you about killing yourself. Thank God for that. Times will get better but you will hit lows again. And when that happens, do what you did last night. Post on here. Email someone. PM someone. Make a phone call. Do anything or do it all. And when those thoughts come, do yourself and everyone else the justice of allowing it to be talked about first.

You will not be judged by anybody here. Chances are, a large proportion of our members have been where you are at the moment. They have come out the other end and you can and WILL too.

Please, please make use of the offers of help. Like the website Rights Fighter provided says, often you just need a few more resources to balance out the overwhelming pain. Let us be the resources.

I have PM'd you my email address. Use it anytime, I have funny sleep patterns!

[Denise]

Daki I don't know you but you can't give in
I assume you have family, don't do it to them

I was like that once, I sobbed to a friend who got me to live at hers, there and then that night, I know she saved my life

When you pull through those moments, you really realise that it would've been the most wrong thing to do

Everything daki, and I mean everything is mendable in life
Xx