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  • Hello pretty down :(

    Hi everyone,

    Well I came here a few months ago on my Fiance's behalf bcaus he had been falsley accused of child sex charges. He was obviously innocent and was furious when he was offered a plea bargain and said no way would he ever plead Guilty to something he didn't do.

    Reading the papers of his case and bearing in mind things I knew about the complainent and things I was threatened by their family I knew he was innocent aswell and have supported and will continue to support him all the way through.

    Well he went to court ( start date was our daughters 1st birthday). Well he didnt have a fair trial. He for one didnt have anyone of his own race on the Jury strike 1. Strike 2 prosecutions family were giving intimidating looks to the Jury enough for one of them to complain but was considered they could still be impartial (hmmm).Strike 3 it was going fantastic up to the point of the Judges summing up all except 3 of the Jury appeared to believe our side. then the Judge gae an very negative summing up 1hr 45 mins prosecution and bearly 10 mins of defense ( her penultimate case she is going out with a bang) the Jury went away and came back in less than half an hour didn't discuss anything.

    He didn't get bail and is now on remand until sentencing for which he is looking at a long stretch the Judge said 15 years according to our Barrister. I didn't even get chance to say goodbye and neither did our daughter who has been awful as she is a Daddy's girl.

    I feel so annoyed that this can happen and had I encouraged him to take the plea bargain he would have been out in 2.5 to 3.5 years as the Barrister said he would then have got 5-7 years. He is not well so I know think I will never get him back.

    I know from personal experience that being abused as a child is devestating as I went through it so for my Partner to be accused of this and be innocent and be inside wasting away is horrific as my abuser got away with it...

    How do other women with innocent men inside cope? What can we do to reduce the sentence ( our Barrister he cant see us getting an appeal as there was no evidence to start with. What are me and my daughter going to face on the outside?

    Sorry for the long post but it is so raw as he only got taken away 3 days ago

  • #2
    Hi, I am so sorry to read of this - it does seem that yet again its a farce more than a trial.

    You do cope - you do it day by day - its the only thing that you can do. You write/email and you visit and you get through it. Its hard and you certainly find out who your friends are.

    You mention that your husband has medical problems, he should get fairly decent treatment inside. Those that I've heard of with medical conditions seem to be dealt with properly.

    There will be others along soon with more advice. Its going to be hard, but try to live your life and hold your head high.
    And God promised men that good and obedient wives would be found in all corners of the world. Then made the world round .... and laughed and laughed and laughed ..

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    • #3
      Thanks for replying

      Hi,

      Thanks for the quick reply it is a comfort to hear that he will get proper health care treatment while inside as I have been so worried about him I am so used to "looking after him " basically bossing him into telling the drs how bad it is as he is a proud man and refuses to face up to his health issues unless I sit him down to talk about them.

      I am hoping we can appeal but there was NO evidence to start with grr. So not feeling very hopeful. I am in contact with Margaret from FASO what a lovely woman and so helpful.

      Please whoever comes here for advice after me and reads this thread please, please, please don't be under the impression that the Jury will give you a fair trial they WONT.

      I was unable to go into the court room for various reasons being a defense witness and having a very young child but from those who went in for me to support him the Jury just didn't want to be there they absolutly stopped paying any attention not even half way through the Video interview.

      Please mak sure you say a proper goodbye before going into the court room for the verdict as you wont be able to say it afterwards. This was the big regret I have we were so shocked that we were called back into court so soon that we ran up there and didn't say goodbye. That was Monday and it is now Thursday and I havent seen him or heard his voice since

      fa3

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      • #4
        What does trial sol/counsel say about appealing? If they say there are no grounds that doesn't mean that this is true.

        Unfortunately the point about the jury being made up of people none of whom was the defendant's race will go nowhere.

        However if the jury sent a note saying they felt that they were being intimidated by the accuser's supporters and then took a very short time to convict, then this might help.

        Contact the solicitor and insist on a written document called an "Advice on Appeal". Come back and keep us updated.
        People Appealing Convictions of Sexual Offences ~http://www.pacso.co.uk

        PAFAA details ~ https://pacso.co.uk/pafaa-people-aga...ions-of-abuse/

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        • #5
          hello falsly accused by
          we had the same problem with my son, our jury took 25 minutes they went out i went to my car to check my parking ticket when i got back the jury had returned.just wondering why your barrister said 15 years. my son got 7 years in august. according to our solicitor that is what he told us before hand he would get . and he did.also no proof no dna. it was a clear case of who the jury believed on the day with us, she even had to admit in court that she had lied about several issues,we were so confident of a not guilty. because of this also my son was offered a reduced charge if he admitted unlawful sex .he told them no not on your life, and he dosn,t regret this even though he got found guilty. i think about that jury everyday i can,t believe they were even taking notice of the case they looked bored ..also you will here from your partner soon it takes a bit of time for him to get a vo out to you and get telephone calls sorted take care

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          • #6
            Fa3

            Hi the Trial Barrister said he will look at it again with fresh eyes 7 days after the trial end so fingers crossed there will be something :S

            Apparently the note they sent to the Judge doesn't count as the Judge apparently asked the Juror do they think they could continue without prejudice but to b honest I am not convinced as I felt that they did just not want the hassle of a miss trial. ( perhaps I am bing to cynical but am feeling very bitter).

            I know what you mean about the Jury not wanting to be there ours were the same they all looked really scruffy ( not being catty but was genuine truth), also they all stopped paying attention by the time the video interview had been on for only 30 mins and hardly seemed to acknowledge anything else in the trial no one took any notice of what I said whilst I was giving evidence. So frustrating.

            I think it was because the accuser made up so many lies that there were 9 counts that they charged him with. i hope he doesn't gt 15 years and only gets 7 as maybe we will havee a life together again :S

            I feel so sorry for everyone who has gone through this as it is a living hell

            stay strong all

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            • #7
              Was he found guilty on a rape allegation? If not then that should set the sentence lower than 15 years.
              People Appealing Convictions of Sexual Offences ~http://www.pacso.co.uk

              PAFAA details ~ https://pacso.co.uk/pafaa-people-aga...ions-of-abuse/

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              • #8
                False but found guilty

                Hi Rights Fighter,

                Sadly it was a false Historic rape allegation with no DNA no nothing just a pack of lies and in the words of our barrister utter fabrication. So many mistakes they made how he got convicted I will never know.

                FA3

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                • #9
                  If this was one rape allegation it might be less than 15 years depending on how historic it was. He would have to be sentenced as though he was being sentenced at the time of the alleged abuse. Sentences for sexual offences were lower depending on how far back you go.
                  People Appealing Convictions of Sexual Offences ~http://www.pacso.co.uk

                  PAFAA details ~ https://pacso.co.uk/pafaa-people-aga...ions-of-abuse/

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                  • #10
                    Historic

                    Hi again,

                    Well they span from 7 - 10 years ago. 4 rape and 5 indecent assault gosh how I hate writing that it sounds so awful especially as it is lies. If it was true I couldav walked away and let him rot but he is a good man, a fantastic father and a loving partner. They even went as low to say they witnessed him doing it to his daughters which they furiously deny they have taken it very very badly that their father is inside. Sorry about grammer and punctuation but i am working on auto pilot at the moment

                    FA3

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                    • #11
                      An update

                      Well after nearly 3 weeks of no contact I saw my husband, he is coping but quite emotional like I have never seen before. I found out that his ex who we suspect put the girls up to it has written to him begging to see him not to gloat but she has important info for and she wants to give him some of her blood money, the cheek of it but I am seeking legal advice maybe this is our door to proving his innocence. If a deal can be cut with her to protect her from them and prosecution she may just tell the truth I so hope that the guilt has got to her and she has seen what a mistake she has made x

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                      • #12
                        hi i suggest she takes her info to your solicitor .you never know what she has up her sleeve once she gets into the visiting room. unless your allowed a private visit with your solicitor present sounds like she is full of guilt at the outcome.

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                        • #13
                          Fa3

                          Hi Gem yeah we wouldn't even dare see her without a solicitor. Margaret from FASO is helping us with this I just hope her conscience is getting to her enough that she does say the truth so we can have our life back, my partner is too good a man to be labelled like this it is so wrong that people can get away with doing this to all our families on here x

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                          • #14
                            hi FA3,
                            sorry to hear about your ordeal. We have the same case, historical allegations of a stepdaughter of an ex accused my partner. No evidence except false statements. We are still waiting to go to court. I hope you get a chance to appeal. Yes, every little information is important FA3. It is so unfair that the jury are allowed to behave like that; oh life is so unfair! Please be strong though. I hope you can find a specialist to help you with an appeal. Nobody deserves a false allegation.

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                            • #15
                              Fighter

                              I feel for you fighter, it is the worst situation to be in, I really hope you have a fairer trial than we did and make sure you got a fantastic Barristr and solicitor and try to glean evn the smallest bit of info poss out of everthing you can because it just may be the break you need. xxx be strong xx Contact Margaret from FASO also she is a fantastic help and support x

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