Husband wrongfully convicted of child sex offences

[againstfa]

My husband was wrongfully accused 3 years ago with the crown court adjourning the trial 7 times over almost 3 years. Social services bacame involved with our family as i have 3 children to him. I was pregnant when i found out about his ex partners kids saying he had done stuff to them. i did not believe the allegations for a second, he would not even rub sudo cream on our sons backside as he thought it was gross plus he did not spend a lot of time with his kids as was working to provide all of the time. The case was at trial earlier this year. One of them said it happened on my husbands 30th when he was up here with me!!!!! When it went to court early this year, i was sat outside the court room and this person came in, they did not know me as i live at the other end of the country,. I heard that person collaborating on the phone with one of the accusers and due to me making the legal team aware it was put for a retrial due to contamination of evidence as when the legal team took a statement from the person outside the courtroom, after the conversation between him and the accuser took place, the person on the phone that i heard told the legal team that he had spoken to the accuser over a week and a half ago. but was then asked the question that it had been brought to their attention that they had been speaking to them that day, he admitted he had.
The trial was a few weeks ago and he was told the new jury would receive full transcripts of the last trial, they were only given snippets. They had no clue what had happened prior to this trial and convicted him on the crime that had been put for re trial a few weeks ago!!!!! This justice system has destroyed my family and almost me, he is in there for something i know he has not done, i heard it with my own ears. I truly feel sorry for the victims of child sex abuse but in this case and many others, we are the victims. Why can't the systems laws and the media see things from the other perspective. life is not fair and the so called "justice system" has destroyed ours. Any advice?

[againstfa]

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My husband was wrongfully accused 3 years ago with the crown court adjourning the trial 7 times over almost 3 years. Social services bacame involved with our family as i have 3 children to him. I was pregnant when i found out about his ex partners kids saying he had done stuff to them. i did not believe the allegations for a second, he would not even rub sudo cream on our sons backside as he thought it was gross plus he did not spend a lot of time with his kids as was working to provide all of the time. The case was at trial earlier this year. One of them said it happened on my husbands 30th when he was up here with me!!!!! When it went to court early this year, i was sat outside the court room and this person came in, they did not know me as i live at the other end of the country,. I heard that person collaborating on the phone with one of the accusers and due to me making the legal team aware it was put for a retrial due to contamination of evidence as when the legal team took a statement from the person outside the courtroom, after the conversation between him and the accuser took place, the person on the phone that i heard told the legal team that he had spoken to the accuser over a week and a half ago. but was then asked the question that it had been brought to their attention that they had been speaking to them that day, he admitted he had.
The trial was a few weeks ago and he was told the new jury would receive full transcripts of the last trial, they were only given snippets. They had no clue what had happened prior to this trial and convicted him on the crime that had been put for re trial a few weeks ago!!!!! This justice system has destroyed my family and almost me, he is in there for something i know he has not done, i heard it with my own ears. I truly feel sorry for the victims of child sex abuse but in this case and many others, we are the victims. Why can't the systems laws and the media see things from the other perspective. life is not fair and the so called "justice system" has destroyed ours. Any advice?

By the way the evidence in this trial compared to the last was completely contradicting and the jury did not have access to this. They were not allowed to be aware that the mother was selling sex things over the internet and thought she was just a mother cooking for her kids at home. Why can't the facts be brought out in these sort of cases, it not innocent until proven guilty, its the other way around with these type of offences. Thats how we have been treat!!!! Who are the real victims?

[againstfa]

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My husband was wrongfully accused 3 years ago with the crown court adjourning the trial 7 times over almost 3 years. Social services bacame involved with our family as i have 3 children to him. I was pregnant when i found out about his ex partners kids saying he had done stuff to them. i did not believe the allegations for a second, he would not even rub sudo cream on our sons backside as he thought it was gross plus he did not spend a lot of time with his kids as was working to provide all of the time. The case was at trial earlier this year. One of them said it happened on my husbands 30th when he was up here with me!!!!! When it went to court early this year, i was sat outside the court room and this person came in, they did not know me as i live at the other end of the country,. I heard that person collaborating on the phone with one of the accusers and due to me making the legal team aware it was put for a retrial due to contamination of evidence as when the legal team took a statement from the person outside the courtroom, after the conversation between him and the accuser took place, the person on the phone that i heard told the legal team that he had spoken to the accuser over a week and a half ago. but was then asked the question that it had been brought to their attention that they had been speaking to them that day, he admitted he had.
The trial was a few weeks ago and he was told the new jury would receive full transcripts of the last trial, they were only given snippets. They had no clue what had happened prior to this trial and convicted him on the crime that had been put for re trial a few weeks ago!!!!! This justice system has destroyed my family and almost me, he is in there for something i know he has not done, i heard it with my own ears. I truly feel sorry for the victims of child sex abuse but in this case and many others, we are the victims. Why can't the systems laws and the media see things from the other perspective. life is not fair and the so called "justice system" has destroyed ours. Any advice?

The walls are high and you're inside; the doors are locked and barred
But do not fear confinement, take strength and don't grow hard
For all the lies can't keep you, from those that love you most
And when your term is over, the past will be a ghost
For you can sleep, your conscience clear and they will bear the guilt
And if they don't they'll rot in hell for the case that their lies built
Take heart in your own innocence, you know the man you are
Let no one tell you otherwise, your conscience clear by far
For lies breed guilt and they can't hide, it's with them all the time
Although they think they've won for now, they know they've done the crime
For one day you will show the world and you will clear your name
Then everyone will look at them as they bow their heads in shame
So next time someone tells you to talk about your crime
The answer that you'll give them is "this crime is theirs not mine"

[blowngasket]

iam so sorry to hear your bad news there are other people on here who will be along with partners in prison .who can give you advice in the meantime write to him has much as possible to help him through iam sure others on here maybe able to help with an apeal hope he did not get to long and time passes quickly and he will be soon home with you and the children
shirley

[againstfa]

Thanks Shirley, its just very hard to accept. xx

[Saffron]

Hi Againstfa and welcome
I'm sorry to read your sad story. Our justice system is an oxymoron!
Have you spoken to your barrister/sol about the possibility of an appeal?

I like your poem, I will post it up in the poetry and prose section.
Stay strong, keep writing to him; send him photos of every room in the house so that he can visualise Home better. Visit whenever you can.

Thinking of you

[Rights Fighter]

By the way the evidence in this trial compared to the last was completely contradicting and the jury did not have access to this. They were not allowed to be aware that the mother was selling sex things over the internet and thought she was just a mother cooking for her kids at home. Why can't the facts be brought out in these sort of cases,............

This sort of "evidence" is known as "bad character".

This bad character evidence relating to a witness cannot be brought into the proceedings as

a) the mother was not on trial and

b) it doesn't prove the allegations are not true.

[againstfa]

Hi

Ok, but if i was a member of the jury and the case is word on word, then surely that would relate to the upbringing an environment they were brought up in. I know its the law about bad character but why can't the truth be told instead of covering things up. It would put a seed of doubt in my mind if i knew those facts.

As a rights fighter, how about my husband who was promised by his solicitor that the jury in the retrial would be promised full transcripts of the last trial and were only given snippets? They were not able to see the contradictions from the last trial from the accusers of which there were many. My husbands testimony was consistent and theirs wasn't. Is this grounds of appeal?

[againstfa]

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Very interesting to read that convictions on child sex offences have gone up 60% over past few years. I feel that the medias outlook on accused offenders has given the kids more ammunition for making malicious allegations. I also read that over 70% of teachers accused of offences are untrue and the result of malicious kids and parents. Its rife and so unjust.
I feel for kids that this has really happened to but in cases like mine, my husband, myself and my children are the victims. Why can't the media put more scope on this area rather than stone throwing at innocent people?
What about our human rights?

[againstfa]

thank you

Hi Againstfa and welcome
I'm sorry to read your sad story. Our justice system is an oxymoron!
Have you spoken to your barrister/sol about the possibility of an appeal?

I like your poem, I will post it up in the poetry and prose section.
Stay strong, keep writing to him; send him photos of every room in the house so that he can visualise Home better. Visit whenever you can.

Thinking of you

Thank u so much, i feel like breaking down but won't as we have young children that i need to look after now. I just feel so helpless. My winnows have been egged again. my kids pram has been pinched from my car. I have called the police but they can't do anything. x His barrister is looking at grounds of appeal this weekend. They have left it right up to the 28 days. I cannot visit as he is over 200 miles away and i have little ones. I won't take them there and put them in that type of prison environment, i have to think of them. I have to be careful of what i write because when the allegations first came out the social became involved. All the letters get read and calls listened to and i can't tell him how i really feel as i cannot risk my kids. He agrees. I want to see him and am writing everyday trying so hard to get my message of support across. I have even contacted Chris Saltrese in case this appeal fails. I am trying not to fall apart. Thank you for your advice. x

[RFLH]

Does his 'hotel' accept emails? They're cheaper than letters and in most cases get to them quicker.

Please inform the police about each incident, you shouldn't have to put up with harrassment.

Is there anyone who can look after your children whilst you visit? You can get financial help with travelling expenses, have you looked into that?

[LS]

Assisted Visits Scheme
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Dl1/Directories/DG_195941

Be aware that even if the SS weren't in the frame, your partner's conviction would mean that any visits from his children would have to be "vetted" by the prison/SS and in many cases would be denied access.

[againstfa]

Does his 'hotel' accept emails? They're cheaper than letters and in most cases get to them quicker.

Please inform the police about each incident, you shouldn't have to put up with harrassment.

Is there anyone who can look after your children whilst you visit? You can get financial help with travelling expenses, have you looked into that?

My parents are getting old, i have looked into travel expenses but there is no way i am taking my kids with me to a place like that. I am stuck. All my friends work so no way to get there. The email a prisoner is now not active.
Every request he has made has been denied, including his tobacco not been delivered as it was requested on his list and they told him that it was tuff and he will have to wait another 2 weeks. They get 2 spoonfuls of cereal on a morning with milk., some sort of **** soup for lunch and a lamb paste for tea. i have spoken to the control room there several times, 2 of them have said i can send paper, envelopes, underwear and stamps. the other 3 have said i can only send stamps. i have wasted money sending things to him that have just been put into his property box. on top i got told by 3 people that it was not essential that i put my name and address on the back of letters as this is for re directing only. As the letters take a week to arrive, he has told me that he has had his first and final warning that all letters must have a sender address on. So the 7 letters i have sent him will not be given to him. the left hand does not know what the right hand is doing and even more contradictions that i don't deserve or need. i am getting fed up with battling with everything and everyone. If i put in a complaint then will they target him more? Human rights go to **** in this country.

[againstfa]

Assisted Visits Scheme
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Dl1/Directories/DG_195941

Be aware that even if the SS weren't in the frame, your partner's conviction would mean that any visits from his children would have to be "vetted" by the prison/SS and in many cases would be denied access.

I know, i wouldn't take them anyway. impossible situation for an innocent family really.

[LS]

I know, i wouldn't take them anyway. impossible situation for an innocent family really.

Sadly, that's the sort of attitude which is a result of the media hype. It's just a building with bars on.
Children get taken to worse places, in my opinion, like town centres where everyone effs and blinds, and pubs and filthy playing areas.
I wanted to see my kid at all costs, no matter what type of building I was in, or no matter the cost, but wasn't allowed thanks to the SS.
Other cons having their visits was the least of my concerns.