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    Hello, With a rape case is it innicent tell proven guilty or guilty untell proven innicent? i was told with rape and murder cases its guilty untell proven inicent! please help

  • #2
    It is supposed to be innocent until proven guilty, but in practice it's the other way round.

    The police and cps are not interested these days in whether or not someone is innocent. They generally regard everyone as guilty, and to that effect their role is in gathering evidence which will secure more than a 51% chance of a conviction.

    If there is evidence which shows you are innocent, quite often it will be ignored, or "misplaced", or just hidden. Which shouldn't happen if the system today was truly about someone's innocence or guilt. It's not, it's just about getting convictions regardless.

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    • #3
      Hi

      Hello, ok thank's for the responce how stupid tho just beacuse sumone says something they presume it to be true!

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      • #4
        The police are under huge pressure from the Government to increase rape convictions so that is what they will do - if only they were allowed to just get on with their job and investigate properly! Unfortunately it is not in their interests to do that
        People Appealing Convictions of Sexual Offences ~http://www.pacso.co.uk

        PAFAA details ~ https://pacso.co.uk/pafaa-people-aga...ions-of-abuse/

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        • #5
          In addition, police gain promotion (which equals pay rise) on the back of how many convictions they get.
          So of course, dishonest ones aren't going to turn down the chance of getting a conviction which helps them go up the ladder (and earn more money), are they?

          And yes, all it takes is the word of one greedy person with no morals.

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          • #6
            Hello

            Hello, ok thank's right's rigter can u possibly PM me ive got a quick question that i do not withh to put on the main forums! thanks

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            • #7
              Sorry I can't. I am up to my ears with a trial and two appeals against conviction plus other support/liaison work at the moment.

              I am sure that some of the more senior members here can help with whatever query you have. As long as it does not contain any identifying features you will be quite safe posting your question on here.
              People Appealing Convictions of Sexual Offences ~http://www.pacso.co.uk

              PAFAA details ~ https://pacso.co.uk/pafaa-people-aga...ions-of-abuse/

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              • #8
                Hello

                Hello, ok i've asked my question now thank's anyway x

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                • #9
                  hi

                  just wanted to know if the CID will come and collect the computer :/ its been a while since arrest and charge but not been to trail yet

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                  • #10
                    Generally they do, but would have expected it to have been taken a lot sooner than this. Just make copies of what's on it and keep them safe, if any of it's useful to your case.

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                    • #11
                      Hi

                      Ok thanks for ure responce

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