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    I have found a motive to lie for my ex who got me arrested for rape 5months ago. I've also recalled several other lies that she told not only me but my mum too. I've written them all down. the lies included being mollested by her father until the age of 6 (she's never seen her father) and seeing her mum raped (which never happened)

    I'm giving a copy of what I've handwritten to my solicitors.

    She claimed to be 'traumatised' 3 years after the alleged rape and yet displayed no signs of it whatsoever given her actions in the following week (eg sleeping with 2 people the day after I was arrested (my partners ex put that he'd slept with her that day on his Facebook (he's now been removed due to being a sex-offender himself) and a friend told me she'd slept with him on the same day. she had a boyfriend at the time, and going round MY local supermarket when she knew I'd be shopping despite HER local being a 2min walk from her house and MY local being 45mins via 2 buses from hers). I've also written that down and will hand a copy to my solicitors.

    will the police or cps take any of it into account?

  • #2
    I have only recently been accused myself so am hardly qualified to give someone else advice but with the caveat that others more qualified may be along and can correct anything, I will happily share my understanding of how this may work.

    I understand that the CPS will be involved within three days of your arrest and will advice the police what evidence should be collected in addition to the evidence already secured by the police. The Crown and Police will be collecting evidence to demonstrate that the allegations are correct, according to the CPS guidelines they should consider all evidence but solicitors have advised me that simply contacting the police or providing evidence is no guarantee that this will be considered prior to a charging decision being made.

    Do you have a solicitor at the minute? I have engaged a new solicitor who is more proactive and was recommended by FASO (you cangoogle them). His advice has been to try to get a second interview with the police and ensure that you describe the evidence. My understanding is that the CPS should read a transcript of all of your interviews before a decision is made. This may be the best way to ensure that the CPS are aware of the evidence. If they do not have it in their possession, they may ask the officers to produce it.

    In addition of trying to ensure your new evidence is considered, you may receive further information which you can refute disclosed during the course of the interview. You may even get an idea via your solicitor what the police are thinking inn relation to your case. So youmay wish to ask your solicitor to contact the police and request a second interview. Please wait for more experienced members to confirm or refute this advice before deciding or just take the advice of your solicitor.

    Good luck and try to stay strong.

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    • #3
      To be honest, sleeping with 2 different people immediately after reporting a "rape" is unlikely to support your case. Post-rape behaviour is varied and can include extreme promiscuity as well as recoiling from any sexual contact. People react to genuine rapes very differently. Being highly promiscuous after being raped is pretty common behaviour - the victim is trying to prove to themselves that sex isn't about force and/or violence. I'm sorry if that doesn't help, but you need to be aware that this is what the prosecution will say.

      With regard to the lies she has told about being abused and seeing her mum raped - are these provable? What I mean is, has her mum categorically denied that she was ever raped, and would she be prepared to stand as a defence witness to this effect? In order for this evidence to be admissible you will need her to do this.

      Good luck and keep coming back.

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      • #4
        ^was just about to add that. As a victim of rape you may feel there is no point saying no because people will do it anyway, life can't get any worse etc or that by consenting it will some how wipe out the rape. If this woman didn't normally sleep with numerous people in a short space of time then it actually adds to her case significantly. I know that isn't what you want to hear but better you hear it now.

        Glad you have found us and have a place to get some support but regret it is under these conditions.
        "I dreamt I went to the doctor's and she gave me eight minutes to live. I'd been sitting in the f**king waiting room half an hour." Sarah Kane (4.48 Psychosis)

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        • #5
          Originally posted by the game View Post
          I have found a motive to lie for my ex who got me arrested for rape 5months ago. I've also recalled several other lies that she told not only me but my mum too. I've written them all down. the lies included being mollested by her father until the age of 6 (she's never seen her father) and seeing her mum raped (which never happened)

          I'm giving a copy of what I've handwritten to my solicitors.

          She claimed to be 'traumatised' 3 years after the alleged rape and yet displayed no signs of it whatsoever given her actions in the following week (eg sleeping with 2 people the day after I was arrested (my partners ex put that he'd slept with her that day on his Facebook (he's now been removed due to being a sex-offender himself) and a friend told me she'd slept with him on the same day. she had a boyfriend at the time, and going round MY local supermarket when she knew I'd be shopping despite HER local being a 2min walk from her house and MY local being 45mins via 2 buses from hers). I've also written that down and will hand a copy to my solicitors.

          will the police or cps take any of it into account?

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          the lies included being mollested by her father until the age of 6 (she's never seen her father) and seeing her mum raped (which never happened)

          If the allegations were not made to the police then it is unlikely that this "bad character" can be used against her. After all, the Crown could say that "this is all made up in an effort to persuade the jury of your innocence".

          "Seeing her mum raped" - who did she say this to and are they credible witnesses? Again, the Crown could say that "this is all made up in an effort to persuade the jury of your innocence".


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          sleeping with 2 people the day after I was arrested (my partners ex put that he'd slept with her that day on his Facebook (he's now been removed due to being a sex-offender himself) and a friend told me she'd slept with him on the same day.

          As Saffron points out, that does not necessarily mean that the alleged assault did not take place. Plus the Crown could say that you have roped some friends in to help your case to smear her character.

          A comment on Facebook that has been removed cannot be used as evidence as his computer cannot be seized without his consent. You say he is a sex offender, so is he likely to agree for that to happen?


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          and going round MY local supermarket when she knew I'd be shopping despite HER local being a 2min walk from her house and MY local being 45mins via 2 buses from hers)

          Crown would say: "maybe she was in the area and why should she not shop where she pleases? And how would she know that you would be shopping at that exact same time?



          I know it sounds like I am being obstructive but this is how this sort of evidence would be viewed, if you are sent to trial.

          If the allegations she made against her father were made official then that could be put into the evidence if it was proved to be false at the end of that investigation.

          Before you throw any more "evidence" into the pot you need to ask yourself this question: "How will the Crown view this 'evidence' and how will they respond to it?"
          People Appealing Convictions of Sexual Offences ~http://www.pacso.co.uk

          PAFAA details ~ https://pacso.co.uk/pafaa-people-aga...ions-of-abuse/

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          • #6
            she reported the "rape" 3 years after it supposedly happened.

            her mum wouldn't stand as defence witness because she was turned against me after me and my ex split up 6months after I supposedly raped her. my mum would stand as a witness cos she was told by my ex about 3months AFTER I was told by her.

            I also believe that my partners ex (the sex offender) was the one who forced her to lie to the police cos he's been wanting to get me sent to prison since my partner filed for divorce (incidentily before me and her got together).

            she's spread rumours around a social group that we were both part of and they were quickly dispelled, yet she told the police the same things.

            the 'position' she said I was in when I raped her would not have been possible for me to get into as I have problems with my bones and muscles and require a walking stick to walk.

            I've done my best to make it not affect my life and it only gets to me within a week of my bail date approaching.

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