my 16 year old son falsely accused of rape by a woman of 40

[keri19711keri]

hi

hi everyone long time no see,
i'm sorry i'v not posted for so long after you were al so kind in helping and supporting me.
the court case for abuse of process finally got underway yesterday after 4 adjournments due to police not turning up.
i tell you with eavy heart that the abuse of process against my son failed!!!
my son must stand full trial for rape in august.......

the judge admitted that my son had been treated terribly at the hands of the police and cps but after reading lots of stuff which i did not understand from law books he said the trial will have to stand.

might i just tell you that the judge was very sympathetic towards my son to the point where he asked their cps barrister to take time out to ask the police to reconsider and to drop the charges or go to the complainant and ask her to!!!!!!!

he fully believes that the cps have made a wrong judgement in getting this case to court. might i also add that the cps barrister wants nothing to do with it either, he's the second one to say this!!!!

now i have to prepare my son for this joke of a trial that no one wants to make a decision on because they all know is a load of rubbish.

we were given this womans medical records which reveal not only is she bi polar with mental problems that had her a stay in the loony bin but also that she is an alcoholic!!! an alcoholic that claims she was incapable drunk on just four and a half glasses of wine!!!

i pray that the jury see through this disgrace of a woman and free my son from this terrible burden on his shoulders.

please can i ask anyone that could help me with preparing my son for the worst possible outcome to contact me. he's now 18.

this woman's accusation has stoll my sons early years of becoming a lovely young man, i pray to god that she doesn't take his freedom and ruin his life with her disgusting lies.

The law books are very hard to understand, ive studied the "archbold" and came up with no less than 14 grounds to appeal. My partner has already been wrongly convicted. In that book, you will find the things you need to fight. I wish i could show you. It taken me months of study,but i know ive done enough. Enough for one of the top appeal lawyers in the country to take the case on. Im not intelligent, just determined. You have all the evidence, study it time and time again. You will pick up inconsistancies. Ask to see any cctv footage. Insist on her original statement to be heard in court. And insist on showing all cctv. (not a compilation). You have to be assertive with your barrister, about certain aspects of the case you want addressing. They get paid either way. They dont always mention a lot of things, that we would say is vital. We are people,just as a jury are. Pretend to be the jury,read the evidence. What would you think as an outsider? And conduct the case, so the lies are publically shown to the jury. xxx

[Saffron]

Hi Landlady

So sorry to hear this news and thanks for keeping us updated. Sending you my prayers and positive thoughts.

xx

[Rights Fighter]

might i just say i was meerly QUOTING what the medical records of this woman show. please do not insult my intelegence as to believe i do not fully understand that her condition makes her more vunerable, but that vunerability my be taken for granted by someone that knows her or by a more worldly wise person NOT a 16 year old boy that has had no other sexual experience!!!!

i would appreciate it if you could maybe offer constructive help or just non at all!!

I doubt her records mentioned that she had been in a "loony bin".

If you hope to find nothing but constructive answers to your posts and queries please try to remember that some members on here may well suffer Bi-Polar or have loved ones who do - and would not in a month of Sundays make a false allegation of rape.

Having a mental illness does not necessarily mean that a person is more likely to falsely accuse somebody of a sexual offence.

Please try to remember that many people who post on here are hurting badly themselves. With that in mind you might try to think before you post especially when slinging arrows in relation to mental health illnesses. Some members, as I said, unfortunately suffer from such.

[largactyl1]

Hi Landlady, what RF says is true - I have severe Bipolar (I was a teacher before it kicked in devastatingly badly)and have done more than my fair share of time in the Bin. Apart from Tony's accuser, I don't know anyone of my fellow sufferers (from a variety of MH problems) who would DREAM of making a false complaint. Having a severe version of BP means I do have a lot of knowledge regarding MH problems, and I know you must be so angry with your boy's accuser - so please, as I said before, if you need info please pm or leave message.

[Saffron]

I think Landlady was venting some of her frustration and I am sure she didn't intend to offend anyone.
QuinnB is correct - I remember him using the word "nutter" in some of his earliest posts.

I don't want to put words into Landlady's mouth, but I believe what she was trying to say is that it seems incredible that someone who seems to be delusional is being taken so seriously.

Of course, just because someone has MH issues does not mean they are any less likely to be raped. However in this case, the complainant was not raped, and seems to be making a false accusation in order to gain sympathy and attention....that all-powerful "Victim Status".

[Bigsister]

Glad you have updated as was reading your thread a few weeks back & wondered what happened. Praying for you all. Not good

[quinnb]

Hi yes I have indeed used words like nutter and looney bin but o have seen the error of my ways. And I think it is important to use the correct terminology and language now. Mental health affects lots of people and i apologies profusely to any one who I may of offended in the past. But landlady I like you was angry and bitter but it got me no where. Easier said than done but try to put that anger out of your mind cuz it won't help u or your son. Ppl who are angry do rash and stupid things. Things you can't afford to do.

[Saffron]

Thanks QuinnB. We value your input, and I know that you have a great deal of wisdom to share....wisdom that has been gained in the hardest possible way.

[landlady]

I doubt her records mentioned that she had been in a "loony bin".

If you hope to find nothing but constructive answers to your posts and queries please try to remember that some members on here may well suffer Bi-Polar or have loved ones who do - and would not in a month of Sundays make a false allegation of rape.

Having a mental illness does not necessarily mean that a person is more likely to falsely accuse somebody of a sexual offence.

Please try to remember that many people who post on here are hurting badly themselves. With that in mind you might try to think before you post especially when slinging arrows in relation to mental health illnesses. Some members, as I said, unfortunately suffer from such.

oh for goodness sake i have never and would never presume anyone with mental health issues such as bi polar or any other are capable of making false allegations of rape i'm mearly stating what i'v seen with my own eyes, and yes it does state in her medical records that she had quite a long stay in a local mental hospital!!!

i truly believe the mental unstability of this woman has lots to do with her false allegation of rape against my son.

drinking on medication is surely a reckless act especially considering the medication of which she is on can cause fatality at its worst and other more not so serious things in the least.

perhaps yes i should think before i post on here, but can i just point out my sheer frustration by the fact my dear son has suffered for two years almost through this womans terrible accusation which is a complete pack of lies its purely incidental that she has a mental disorder is it?????

if you read my last post properly i mention that members of my family have suffered severe depression and bi polar but none of them have ever accused anyone of anything, so please don't accuse me of " shooting arrows " at people that suffer mental health problems, please don't class me as a person that is narrow minded enough to class all such people as the same because i don't. i have seen bi polar at its worst so do not ever judge my perseption of a person that is suffering.

i fully understand that some people on this site suffer themselves and i have the greatest respect as to how they continue to move forward with strenghth to live their lives.

my son is a mess i am a mess so hang me for feeling bitter.

i came to this site for help and support not critisism because i'm angry. its easy to sit on the fence and judge but when your life is in such turmoil sometimes just sometimes you need someone to say, " i understand i'v been there,"

i'm a caring person i would never judge another until i was faced with what this woman has done to our lives and yes i stand in judgement of her !!!!!!!!

[landlady]

I think Landlady was venting some of her frustration and I am sure she didn't intend to offend anyone.
QuinnB is correct - I remember him using the word "nutter" in some of his earliest posts.

I don't want to put words into Landlady's mouth, but I believe what she was trying to say is that it seems incredible that someone who seems to be delusional is being taken so seriously.

Of course, just because someone has MH issues does not mean they are any less likely to be raped. However in this case, the complainant was not raped, and seems to be making a false accusation in order to gain sympathy and attention....that all-powerful "Victim Status".

at last THANKYOU XX

[quinnb]

Nobody is critical cuz u angry. U have every right to be. But someone like me who has gone through this and came out the other side now realizes anger is a negative emotion and it just brings you down further. My false accuser prob loved it that I was angry why cuz it meant she was winning. Don't give her that satisfaction. All much easier said than done but when this is over you will see that I am right.

[landlady]

Nobody is critical cuz u angry. U have every right to be. But someone like me who has gone through this and came out the other side now realizes anger is a negative emotion and it just brings you down further. My false accuser prob loved it that I was angry why cuz it meant she was winning. Don't give her that satisfaction. All much easier said than done but when this is over you will see that I am right.

how am i giving her the satisfaction of seeing me angry, i don't know her, never seen her before that night nor since!!!

my anger is there yes but the frustration is towards your assuption that i have aimed my anger at all who suffer the terrible illness bi polar!!

from what i read you were probably corrected long ago for the same crime!!!

show me some respect if you'v felt the way i and my son do.

you don't know me or any situation i'v ever been in other than this so please do not judge me.

as i'v said i do not and would not judge all mental health sufferers the same !!

my anger is justified for goodness sake i was told two days ago that my son is to stand trial for a false accusation of rape!!!

where is your compasion man!

[largactyl1]

Hi Landlady, I really hope you have not misunderstood me, I fully understand your anger, and when I said that apart from Tony's accuser I don't know anyone who would dream of doing such a terrible thing as make a false accusation - I was displaying my disgust for Laura, and didn't mean it in relation to you. Sorry, I explained myself badly.

You are quite right in regard to medication, most medication for Bi-polar (If it's true bipolar) is specific in it's warnings re alcohol consumption. There are 3 types of medication which is used to try and control the worst excesses of the illnesses:

Mood stabilizers - either Lithium or epilepsy drugs. Lithium should not really be taken with alcohol - one of the main reasons is that it actually makes you incredibly thirsty so you drink way more than you should. The specific epilepsy drug I am on warns against alcohol consumption - not so sure about carbamazapine and epilum.

Anti-psychotic medication - when a bipolar person is treated with anti-psychotics (you have to be at the very severe end for these), generally highly sedative ones are used rather than ones that are less so - this is due to the importance of not only relieving psychotic symptoms but also to try and slow the brain down if a person is going to become manic/mixed state. These drugs specifically warn against alcohol consumption. The one I am on is most commonly used for people with a bipolar diagnosis. It is called Seroquel. The older anti-psychotics such as Largactyl and Halo peridol are still used but generally when someone is in an acute phase in conjunction with modern anti-psychotics. These also are VERY clear - do not mix with alcohol.

Anti-depressants - depending on the different types, differing advice is given.

If this woman has genuine Bipolar and not someone with Borderline Personality Disorder and she is essentially disabled by the condition the above meds will be in her treatment plan. I have noticed that in recent years, some people with addiction and personality disorders will claim to have Bipolar as it has a certain "mystique" at the moment what with Kerry Katona (Cocaine addiction really), Stephen Fry (Genuine), Robbie Williams (misreported - he specifically says he has depression, not bipolar). Funny really as bipolar is a really horrible condition and there are few people I would wish it on! (Just got out of the Bin again last week).

The problem with drinking on these meds is that a) you get drunk a lot quicker b). you can be unpredictable as the effect on your already struggling brain is unpredictable c). poor judgement (or should I say worse) d). Memory blocks - these can be the worst as you find yourself in a place/situation and have no idea of the events leading up to it. It can be frightening and disorientating, but essentially your own responsibility even though you can't remember it........this is why I haven't drunk in 7 years.

Will you have access to all medical notes? I have no idea if you would, and I don't suppose you would see the lot of them however, you might find she has a dual diagnosis - when a diagnosis is made - they draw a triangle and write the diagnosis next to it. Sometimes if it goes back in the past you find there is more than one diagnosis - generally a "dual diagnosis" is MH problems plus addiction problems. Addiction problems tend to be more prevalent in BorderlinePD.

Anyway Landlady, I realise you must be frantic but I think people here aren't really taking issue apart from how easy it could be for the otherside to misconstrue maybe the way things are worded and wrongly say you have a prejudice against this woman - when infact you just hate what she is doing to your boy.

Best wishes to you

Jen

[felix]

Hi Landlady,

I too continue to be on the recieving end from someone who my solictor describes in the technically medically probably inaccurate jargon of "barking mad"

The truth is that some disorders do reduce responsibility - someone does something nasty that they would never have done if they were not ill.

They sometimes produce exaggerated response - alleging rape rather than crying on another frriends shoulder because they have been rejected.

And sometimes they produce delusion - the person genuine thinks you raped her.

I think I have suffered from type 1, but with types 2 and 3 mixed in.

Please continue posting here. Let it all hang out. I am sooooo sympathetic. Please excuse anyone who appears to judge or crticise. I really do not think ANYONE on here wishes you anything but love and support.

Please keep brave and strong, and if anger is the way to do that at the moment, Hallelujah. Much better than hiding or reaching for the pill pot....

[Amre]

Wow

What happened about this? It didn't end here.