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My friend son going out of his mind, plus his family. He was asked to go to the police for questioning for sexual assault. The Police called it a VA.
He didn't have a solicitor. He was never arrested. He was interviewed at the police station.
He hear after 4 months that the cps and the police said that everything dropped.
I only asking will this be on a CBR. My friend son lost his job over the accusation.
Volunteer attendance (VA) aka Volunteer Interview under caution.
Thankfully if a person is interviewed as a volunteer they (do not usually) have their fingerprints, photo and details taken.
Usually no entry is made onto the PNC. So if the matter is No Further Actioned, it will NOT come up on a CRB.
This is why alot of teachers (where pupils have made allegations of basic assault etc) are interviewed as a volunteer.
If they were arrested, even if it were NFA'd the offence may come up on an enhanced CRB making it unlikely they would get a job.
Hope this post helps. But this post does not constitute legal advice, nor a contract/agreement for it.
Thankfully if a person is interviewed as a volunteer they (do not usually) have their fingerprints, photo and details taken.
Usually no entry is made onto the PNC. So if the matter is No Further Actioned, it will NOT come up on a CRB.
This is not true. An upcoming trial I am involved with, the defendant has discovered that a game of 'kiss chase' may well be recorded on his CRB check. This incident occurred when he was 13 years of age and the officer spoke to him through an open window, with no appropriate adult present, so clearly not a formal interview. However, it has been proposed that this silly incident may be recorded. Also, although he has not yet gone to trial, the current (false) allegations also may well appear.
Please do take advice before taking into account what might appear to be legal advice on here.
Outrageous. That would appear to be very extreme and probably in the minority of minorities (may be because of how low ago it was) or in error???.
I suppose the answer should be qualified with 'there are never any guarantees but....'
Still I've personally yet to come across a case where the volunteer interview for any offence resulting in an NFA has come up on a CRB.
Clients are always coming back to me about arrest then NFA ones coming up though And then having to help them draft objections to it being disclosed.
Hope this post helps. But this post does not constitute legal advice, nor a contract/agreement for it.
Still I've personally yet to come across a case where the volunteer interview for any offence resulting in an NFA has come up on a CRB.
I understand that in some instances the VA is subsequently arrested, if for example he tries to leave, it is possible therefore in this instance for the arrest to show up on a ECRB, even if the matter is then disposed of with a NFA
Edit to add: if the VA is subsequently arrested his status would of course then change to that of a DP and thus be in the same position as if he had been arrested from the onset.
Last edited by Casehardened; 4 April 2013, 06:06 AM.
but why are you posting here? I checked out your website - am very curious - and simply ask why. Do you offer support to those people like us here who are facing such allegations?
Outrageous. That would appear to be very extreme and probably in the minority of minorities (may be because of how low ago it was) or in error???.
I suppose the answer should be qualified with 'there are never any guarantees but....'
Still I've personally yet to come across a case where the volunteer interview for any offence resulting in an NFA has come up on a CRB.
Clients are always coming back to me about arrest then NFA ones coming up though And then having to help them draft objections to it being disclosed.
but why are you posting here? I checked out your website - am very curious - and simply ask why. Do you offer support to those people like us here who are facing such allegations?
Thank you for a reply!
DBI
Hi DBI,
As it is possible that Mortons may not visit the forum again for a while, I will take the liberty of answering on his behalf (although he has given this information on his profile)
Rights Fighter has previously asked the same question and his response was:
Indeed I do work for Mortons Solicitors based in Stockport. Can't see a pm option ???
Whilst I usually register on sites with my real name or nic the register page suggested not to. So thought I'd use my firm name. (and tac my firms website onto the profile - i'm sure all promo helps).
Like most criminal defence firms we deal with our fair share of false rape allegations (but also some genuiene).
Whilst I am unlikely to become a regular poster, I hope my posts assist those seeking answers bring some understanding.
Since then, he has added the link to the solicitors he works for in his signature line and, while the forum rules preclude spamming, in this case I believe it adds gravitas to the advice he gives (though obviously folks should also note the disclaimer in the signature!)
Neither the administrators nor the moderators of this forum have had any connection with the firm mentioned so leaving the link in place doesn't imply any endorsement, but obviously if any members have had dealings it would be useful to add suitable comments in the specialist solicitor thread.
I had not heard of Mortons sols (until he or she first started posting). Some of the advice is correct but some is not but as there is an addition to the signature (a sort of disclaimer) then it is up to the individual to accept that advice or not.
CH said:
....since then, he has added the link to the solicitors he works for in his signature line and, while the forum rules preclude spamming, in this case I believe it adds gravitas to the advice he gives (though obviously folks should also note the disclaimer in the signature!)
Sorry CH () but it adds no gravitas whatsoever. Anybody can claim to be working for a solicitor or indeed may well be working for a solicitor but that does NOT mean that it adds gravitas to the advice. Many people on here know only too well that their own solicitors have not always given the correct advice.
With regards to the 'kiss-chase' info being considered for ECRB purposes, I know this is actually an ongoing thing because I have seen the OIC's proposal myself, along with the rest of this young defendant's pre-trial disclosure.
I have said before too, that any close family member or spouse/partner who supports a defendant in these cases may also end up with it on their own ECRB check. My first successful appeal in November 2008 which is known to my group members as the 'Mr Kaz Appeal' resulted in the allegations, the charges, the convictions AND the subsequent quashing of those convictions all appeared on HER ECRB check when she applied to be a dinner lady. She had nothing to do with the allegations, she wasn't there when they were alleged to have taken place yet there it was in black and white.
Wasn't intending to spam (honest). Last time I posted people asked where I worked. I saw Rights Fighter had a link in her signature, despite looking in news I couldn't see anything about signature links.
Oh well, I'll remove it, text only, leave it. Whatever is .
As for my curious return. A client reminded me of the website not long ago. Plus since the Jimmy Saville news broke, I've been dealing with many historic and recent cases. I wondered what the Jimmy Saville effect was for cases on here.
Hope this post helps. But this post does not constitute legal advice, nor a contract/agreement for it.
Link gone. no fuss. Legal disclaimer due to the world we live in.
@RightsFighter, certainly I can understand.
Can't believe that stuff ended up on her CV.
@Casehardened
Yes true, If someone attended as a volunteer then at whatever stage and for what ever reason they were arrested. It would be 'an arrest' with an outcome/disposal that would be on CRB.
Hope this post helps. But this post does not constitute legal advice, nor a contract/agreement for it.
I don't have a problem with the link in your signature as you have made a clear disclaimer alongside it.
Where the problem arises is when links appear solely for the purpose of attracting custom and that is a bit exploitative. Ill leave it to your own choice as to whether you have a link. I don't have a problem either way
I don't have a problem with the link in your signature as you have made a clear disclaimer alongside it.
Where the problem arises is when links appear solely for the purpose of attracting custom and that is a bit exploitative. Ill leave it to your own choice as to whether you have a link. I don't have a problem either way
A very fair decision, Webmoo definitely made a good choice
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