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  • #16
    Originally posted by steve22 View Post

    I would have thought due to messages having the bonus of being able to be verified in realtime relatively quickly with times and dates that the way in which it is presented shouldnt be a technical nightmare?..
    Courts still work in a sort of isolated bubble, so at present you couldn't just give each member of the jury a tablet and get them to look the messages up themselves there and then.

    I guess the reason behind this is that court proceedings are recorded and documented in case of any future appeals and therefore anything presented for consideration by the jury must be verbal or hard copy.
    'What doesn't kill you makes you stronger'

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    • #17
      Are photographs taken of the screen acceptable?

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      • #18
        It would be better to take screenshots...
        "Be sure your sin will find you out"

        Numbers 32:23

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Casehardened View Post
          Courts still work in a sort of isolated bubble, so at present you couldn't just give each member of the jury a tablet and get them to look the messages up themselves there and then.

          I guess the reason behind this is that court proceedings are recorded and documented in case of any future appeals and therefore anything presented for consideration by the jury must be verbal or hard copy.
          Also, I think there is a danger the other party could permanently delete the messages, thereby losing the evidence prior to it's being needed or used in defence.

          Re; screenshots, check the sticky on the forum 'how to take screenshots from your computer'
          Last edited by just married; 16 January 2013, 12:03 AM.
          I'm not ready to make nice

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          • #20
            Good advice JM
            "Be sure your sin will find you out"

            Numbers 32:23

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            • #21
              Originally posted by just married View Post
              Also, I think there is a danger the other party could permanently delete the messages, thereby losing the evidence prior to it's being needed or used in defence.

              Re; screenshots, check the sticky on the forum 'how to take screenshots from your computer'
              Hey JM,

              Facebook messages cannot ever be deleted. They are always held either in the inbox or archive folder. There is no longer a delete option.

              Edit: Just discovered a delete button.. that is annoying. I was relying on the police being able to see the communication between the girls. Becomes a lot trickier when the messages are "gone".

              Steve
              Last edited by steve22; 16 January 2013, 02:46 AM. Reason: Wrong info

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Faith View Post
                It would be better to take screenshots...
                When you screenshot pictures can you record the tags?

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                • #23
                  \The woman who has accused my son of rape stalked him via facebook so he deleted that particular one and opened another account , i have gone through all their legal jargon and not even a court can order them to surrender information , though i dont know if that is in the USA maybe its different here . wish we knew how to get access to his old account x

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by whatsgoingon? View Post
                    When you screenshot pictures can you record the tags?
                    It takes a complete image of whatever is on the screen
                    "Be sure your sin will find you out"

                    Numbers 32:23

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by bookworm123 View Post
                      \The woman who has accused my son of rape stalked him via facebook so he deleted that particular one and opened another account , i have gone through all their legal jargon and not even a court can order them to surrender information , though i dont know if that is in the USA maybe its different here . wish we knew how to get access to his old account x
                      http://www.facebook.com/safety/groups/law/

                      Under guidelines- "We disclose account records solely in accordance with our terms of service and applicable law. A Mutual Legal Assistance Treaty request or letter rogatory may be required to compel the disclosure of the contents of an account."

                      I believe this is like them accessing emails, phone contents. If they want to, they can..

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Casehardened View Post
                        Courts still work in a sort of isolated bubble, so at present you couldn't just give each member of the jury a tablet and get them to look the messages up themselves there and then.

                        I guess the reason behind this is that court proceedings are recorded and documented in case of any future appeals and therefore anything presented for consideration by the jury must be verbal or hard copy.
                        Jurors can be given hard copies of the Facebook evidence. Obviously they cannot be issued with tablets etc otherwise that would give them access to the FB / Twitter /whatever accounts.

                        I've known screens and projectors used so one would think that computerised evidence could also be given via screen/laptop.
                        People Appealing Convictions of Sexual Offences ~http://www.pacso.co.uk

                        PAFAA details ~ https://pacso.co.uk/pafaa-people-aga...ions-of-abuse/

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