Can the FA victims do a march?

[IvorBinWronged]

Does anyone have enough salient legal knowledge to say weather it would be safe to organise a march where the FA victims marched with placards or printed t-shirts of their false accusers name/picture or both.

Light-hearted or serious comments are welcome.

Anyone have an appropriate marching song or chant?

[Faith]

Of course it would be completely illegal in several ways.
Don't like the term you used in your title either, not appropriate for a forum of this nature, so I have edited that for you.

[IvorBinWronged]

Thanks for editing the cheese from my cheese sandwich

The whole point of the bit you stamped out was to highlight that a few individuals who took offence at the way they were treated by the Police made enough noise to start a movement - ****walk.

Furthermore, how would it be illegal if the individual walkers made a public statement that:

"individual (A) FA'd me"?

Especially after it was NC'd or even NFA'd

Surely the NC'd will always be believed...


Please. Put it back.

[Faith]

As you can see, the forum automatically stars out the word when used in a post. Please refer to the Terms And Conditions of using the site, found in the FAQ.

As for your question relating to publicising names, unless you have solid proof (ie a confession) that you were FA'd, then such action would be branded as slander and you would be committing an offence.

I was NFA'd, but I have no EVIDENCE that what I was accused of didn't occur. Most people do not, even those who are No Crimed. For a name to be publicly brandished about in such a way, the person in question would first have to be proven to have made a false allegation and convicted.

Imagine if it were on the other foot. I was NFA'd but the accuser went around with my name on a placard saying that I am a sex offender. If the false accuser has not been convicted then it is exactly the same.

The world would be anarchy if everyone could just sling about allegations publicly with no threat of recourse. Look at the situations on this forum...and then times it by a hundred and you've just about got the picture.

[IvorBinWronged]

As for your question relating to publicising names, unless you have solid proof (ie a confession) that you were FA'd, then such action would be branded as slander and you would be committing an offence.


Imagine if it were on the other foot. I was NFA'd but the accuser went around with my name on a placard saying that I am a sex offender. If the false accuser has not been convicted then it is exactly the same.


The world would be anarchy if everyone could just sling about allegations publicly with no threat of recourse. Look at the situations on this forum...and then times it by a hundred and you've just about got the picture.

Firstly, thanks for taking an interest. I maintain that you are, with the utmost respect,misled.

Secondly, in reply:

Slander, noun: the action or crime of making a false spoken statement damaging to a person's reputation.

If the individual marching knows that they are right in that the accusation was entirely false, they have the right to let everyone know this and then should the accuser feel strongly enough about the validity of such a statement, then they may contest it

(almost like after being NC'd, one could take the FA to down the civil route HA! - like anyone would care).

If someone went around with a t-shirt on alleging that I was an offender as some sort, I would not give a hoot - maybe I would get a t-shirt with the word "SCHUCKS!" on it and do my best to be on their LHS because I know and my closest know that she is full of s***. I'm lucky to have that strength now I know.

Finally:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ts-online.html

Where is the antagonistic UK name and shame FA online (hey go and play pin-the-tail-on-the-donkey at register - her dot com - here's how - pick an FA at random and you get a point for UK and none for the others - EVERYONE gets a high score because FA is ENDEMIC in the UK because it pays big bucks!).

The trouble is Faith is that after FA we're expected to go live under a rock and that is why there is no real counter-argument to balance the inequities of this rather awful, lucrative pantomime. Take away the 11k and I'll shut up! Replace it with counselling. This can only serve to better the relationships between all genders.

[RFLH]

I have an idea - you go and do it and then report back - and when you're released - let us know how you've got on ...... unless we see you in the papers first.


Nobody is saying YOU can't go and do it!

But I think you'd nuts if you do

[IvorBinWronged]

Brilliant!

You see?

It is really taboo to even get to the stage of talking about some type of counter-offensive in this FA matter.

As I have said in other threads, if it was not for me having a lot of luck and having a happy life with responsibilities and commitments (a new life, you might say) I would march, as one if I had to (which would not be construed as a protest march - more of an arrestable offence of some kind)

Heck - prior to meeting my significant other, I even had plans in place to operate a register - her type site pertaining to the UK and administrated from outside the boundaries of the UK.

I will not be bullied!

But I have a different life now and your kind offer of an unsupported march will have to be rain-checked.

My energy and positivity has shifted. I said that a part of me has died in another post - I think that part of that is the bit that the authorities use to control us - some sort of civil moral compass. I mainly care for only me and mine now whereas before altruism was very high up in my list.

Perhaps a march should meet everyone halfway and just have a simple slogan :


False Accusations must stop.

[RFLH]

who is stopping you from talking about it? Not me!

But most that post here are under tremendous pressure from fighting their court cases to even contemplate marching the streets.

If you want to be pro-active off you go, but there are silent protests held every year about this and I'm sure RF will tell you where and when the next ones are - if she has the time.

[Rights Fighter]

There have been organised marches and vigils for the last couple of decades at least. I've taken part in some of them.

Here's a poster that has been used a few times

FA Banner.jpg

If those genuinely falsely accused went round waving banners with their accusers' names on them when they have not been proved to have lied then you are opening yourself up to further action against yourself by the police/CPS and/or the accuser.

[Faith]

IvorBinWronged, as others say above, as soon as you start publicly announcing accusations to named people, without ways of backing itup (even if you know it to be true) you'reopen to trouble.

I'm not saying I agree with it, I'm not saying that I fault your passion...I was just answering a question which you asked.
And you will never gain the moral high ground by banging on about 's***-walks'

[Rights Fighter]

What I cannot understand is that years ago when 'the feminists' took a stand they were completely against dressing up like sluts because it was (still is) degrading to women.

Now they are championing such s*** walks all over the world and saying that men should be responsible for their actions when faced with some female person of low self esteem who dresses and behaves as though she wants to get into bed with just about anybody and everybody, and that they should still treat them with the utmost respect - even though clearly those women do not respect themselves.

What about the personal responsibility of those women not to dress and behave like that? What about the personal responsibility of men who maybe should walk away from these women who dress and behave in such a manner instead of taking what is offered on a plate and then complaining about any dubious consequences after the event.

I'm into equality in certain areas but I am responsible for my own behaviour. If I dress and act like a slut then I expect to be treated as one. If I dress and behave in a 'proper manner' (which I hope I do) then I AM offended when some men treat me like a slut. That is their bad behaviour not mine. When men behave as though they are on the pull and looking for 'anybody' then that's who I avoid. It's simple.

GGGGGRRRRRRR!!!!

[Faith]

Exactement!! Voice of reason

[IvorBinWronged]

*l*t*a*k*, s*u*w*l*s and ****walks.

GGGGGRRRRRRR!!!!

Love the passion!

********* were a bit silly (G**gle ********* and the "woman is the ****** of the world" banner - which said it all really), but burning bras in a public place would get a girl arrested nowadays.

One observation...

Unwanted sleazy sexual male behaviour towards women is spotted and derided with ease but the female version goes right under the radar: the perfume, the coloured make-up, the height adjustment, the undergarments to deceive true body-shape, the polished stones to detract or enhance features and the coloured and modified hair are all facets of the deception that a woman could choose to employ for personal gain. All this paired with verbal and non-verbal communication.

We never had a chance lol

I never knew about the silent protests (and respect people for doing that) but if I really felt the need to, I'd do something to ***k with the system. That's how I feel.

With regards to the people on this forum, when I read their stories, I do feel for their situations and I do respect those who give their time to this community. Like I had stated I just now care for me and mine and the community here is in that bracket. I will always post positive posts on the personal threads because that is what they need to read (ok - one slipped through but he would me up ).

If there was a protest, then we could wear "Miss A FA'd me" or "Mrs G FA'd me" or "NCD means arrest her!"

Ok - rant over - thanks for the interest.

[Boys don't cry]

Igor
Don't worry,I will reply to you soon...

[Rights Fighter]

Love the passion!


One observation...

Unwanted sleazy sexual male behaviour towards women is spotted and derided with ease but the female version goes right under the radar: the perfume, the coloured make-up, the height adjustment, the undergarments to deceive true body-shape, the polished stones to detract or enhance features and the coloured and modified hair are all facets of the deception that a woman could choose to employ for personal gain. All this paired with verbal and non-verbal communication.

We never had a chance lol

This is the point I was making about women going out dressed and behaving as though to pull then complaining when somebody makes a remark she doesn't like. I am not saying they are asking to be raped, of course they are not. What I am saying is that they are more likely to attract the attention of somebody looking for a one night stand.

PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY.

You do have a chance - you could say to your self, 'that is not the kind of person I want to get involved with....' and you are more likely to walk away unscathed.

PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY.