Child sex convictions up 60% ???

[LS]

Child sex convictions are up 60% from what they were 5 years ago.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14596811

Nothing to do with this:
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... or the fact that you can be convicted with absolutely zero evidence to support such an allegation.

I got convicted despite my accuser being unable to give a when, a where, a who, a how or a why.

Child sex convictions are up 60% precisely because fewer and fewer people give a sh1t about the person in the dock being innocent.

[RFLH]

and I notice Esther Rantzen is fanning the flames again too.

[LS]

I never liked her anyway. Saw her for what she is from the start.

[gem]

here here.....

Child sex convictions are up 60% from what they were 5 years ago.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14596811

Nothing to do with this:
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... or the fact that you can be convicted with absolutely zero evidence to support such an allegation.

I got convicted despite my accuser being unable to give a when, a where, a who, a how or a why.

Child sex convictions are up 60% precisely because fewer and fewer people give a sh1t about the person in the dock being innocent.

. you have hit the nail right on the head with this one .my son was given 7 years for the accuser to tell the jury a pack of lies she was proven to lie about when .where. why .also .. the jury were to busy watching the clock at 4 pm on a friday they took 25 mins to find him guilty and home by 4.30 pm . so much for british justice ..and a nice little earner for her .......

[tarzan]

These were the exact thoughts that crossed my mind too. Without meaning to detract from true victims - how has has the increase been achieved? Through a simple imbalance of justice in my opinion!

[Amre]

Child abuse is one of the most under reported crimes there is. The fact that its up 60% isn't enough in my opinion. The majority of people accused ARE GUILTY. Ever seen the aftermath of child rape? Children are distoryed not just emotionally but physically too. No hope of having children of their own because their womb has been wrecked. Yeah getting falsely accoused is very wrong but it's not even in the same planet in terms of damage done. Look up wikip at the number of children that have been made pregnant under the age of 12. The youngest is 5 years old. Raped by her father. But here you are implying that child rape charges are just financially motivated. This forum is ment to be for survivers of rape and the wrongly accused.

[Rights Fighter]

Yes this forum is for those falsely accused of sexual abuse and for those who have been abused - and the parts are separate for obvious reasons. Maybe you could start a similar topic in your section?

In relation to the terrible aftermath of sexual abuse on children - yes I agree with you that it doesn't only have a psychological effect but also physical. In false allegation cases 99% of the time, despite the fact the complainant alleging years of full vaginal and anal penetration, there are NO injuries.

This is often swept under the carpet by the Crown using experts who claim that "this neither confirms nor refutes that penetration took place". The experts get their "facts" from figures taken from ALL cases that have been referred for trial, many of which are people who have protested their innocence from the rooftops.

I am not stupid enough to believe that every single person who protests their innocence are, in fact, innocent - many are guilty as charged. However, when a complainant has alleged years of said abuse yet there are absolute NO injuries and the hymen is intact, I tend to doubt their claims.

[LS]

Child abuse is one of the most under reported crimes there is. The fact that its up 60% isn't enough in my opinion. The majority of people accused ARE GUILTY. Ever seen the aftermath of child rape? Children are distoryed not just emotionally but physically too. No hope of having children of their own because their womb has been wrecked. Yeah getting falsely accoused is very wrong but it's not even in the same planet in terms of damage done. Look up wikip at the number of children that have been made pregnant under the age of 12. The youngest is 5 years old. Raped by her father. But here you are implying that child rape charges are just financially motivated. This forum is ment to be for survivers of rape and the wrongly accused.

This thread is not denying child abuse happens.

What this thread is saying is that official figures "suggest" child abuse convictions have gone up by 60%, and by implication there are 60% more incidents of it happening.
Convictions may have gone up, but it doesn't mean 60% more people are now suddenly guilty, or that there are 60% more perpetrators.
The reason 60% more people are being convicted than before is that many juries are led by their emotions and what they've read in the newspapers, than by the facts put in front of them.
Because the media highlight every single abuse-related comment - howsoever remote the link - and event going, it seems to the public it's going on on a grand scale, which I am sure it isn't.

And whether you like it or not, money is a large incentive to make an allegation. In most cases, a life-changing amount.

The link you refer to highlights worldwide figures, not the UK, and goes back to the 1830s, and some of them are in culturally-acceptable situations. eg one of those is in a harem (not there for the cooking, btw), and another was the child's husband. Yes, husband.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._birth_mothers
So out of a worldwide population of 6 billion, plus those who lived up to 150 years ago, those 20-odd cases must make it an epidemic? And see how
In truth, if you look in a pigsty, of course you're going to see pigs. Maybe look at a more subjective source.

[RFLH]

succinct as ever LS - loved the pig reference ..............

[Rights Fighter]

Originally Posted by Amre
Look up wikip at the number of children that have been made pregnant under the age of 12. The youngest is 5 years old. Raped by her father. But here you are implying that child rape charges are just financially motivated. This forum is ment to be for survivers of rape and the wrongly accused.

I cannot believe that a five year old was made pregnant by anybody - she would not have even started puberty at that age let alone gone through it .......

Edit: just read the link - that's unusual.......precocious puberty???

But then, Wikipedia is not actually an official source is it? Anybody can add anything to it as "fact" when nothing has to be proved so could be absolute rubbish.

I am not saying that this information IS rubbish but unless I see it on an official research page I think I will be taking it with a pinch of salt.

[LS]

And this is very interesting:

"About a third of all cases of sexual abuse against children are found to be carried out by other children or young people."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-14980794

[LS]

Another little nugget I found, from 3 months ago, stating that child abuse incidents are actually dropping.
Yet the conviction rate is climbing?? Hmm.

"But the figures are worrying. Although convictions for sexual offences against children are falling, the proportion of offences that relate to internet crimes against children are going up."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-14234281
25 July 2011 Last updated at 05:04

[Rights Fighter]

Convictions are increasing due to the fact that the police in many cases will not properly investigate as they are under such pressure to reach Government targets for rape convictions.

Also as you put in the OP LS, nothing to do with £ signs in the eyes.......