why plead guilty?

[kskc]

thanks

hi everyone thank you for all your replies.
to be honest frank's posts have just made me realise that there is no hope for justice. i'm not giving up on fighting for my hubby just giving up on hope that anything good will happen.

i can't really concentrate on anything. i did buy some books but have yet to read them. i'm so depressed i don't really want to do anything. i'm so nervous about this pre sentence report from the probation officer.

i don't know what more i can do.

rights fighter, you're an amazing help. chatting to u and posting on this site are the only help and support i have.

[RFLH]

There's always got to be hope.

Friday has given some good advice. You've got to do other things otherwise you'll screw yourself into a knot.

Keep posting and try to be positive, try and find something each day to make you smile, no matter how small it may be.

[Rights Fighter]

It does sometimes seem that there is no hope for justice that is true but sometimes justice does prevail. We sometimes lose sight of that as we don't seem to experience it but there are times when it does actually work.

Please keep coming back kskc. One day you might be strong enough to support others in your situation. You may feel that at the moment this is never going to happen but you might surprise yourself one day!

We can let this sort of thing grind us down or we can build ourselves up and help others to do the same.

Rf

[kskc]

i really can't see the light at the end of the tunnel.
now that my hubby has changed his plea to guilty, we are waiting for him to be sentenced. from what i understand this depends on the pre sentence report. i think i'm finding it so hard because i don't know how long he will get.
he only has another year and a half of his visa left before we have to re new it. if he gets more than that then he will definitely be taken away from me permanently.

his barristers have no clue how long he will get either. they have been no help at all. they wasted about 7months telling him to plead not guilty and on the day of the trial they told him to change to guilty. from what rights fighter told me, the judge won't like that.

i don't think i will be much help to others. i haven't coped very well at all. the only help i've had is from this site!

[lost and heartbroken]

Hi kskc,

I totally understand how you are feeling as my partner was advised to plead guilty as well. I was the same as you and it took me a while to pull myself round and i know you think you wont but as long as you have some support from family and friends you will. Things will get easier in time and i know that happened for me once he was given his sentence.

If you ever need to chat i'm here

x

[Rights Fighter]

I was hoping you would find your way here L & H. KSKC is lovely!

You have a lot in common. x

[lost and heartbroken]

We have actually spoke a few times a while back though i don't know if she'll remember.

[Rights Fighter]

If she doesn't then maybe I can put you in touch with each other if she is ok with that.

You have a bit in common (obviously!)

[kskc]

hey RF and lost and heart broken, sorry for the delay in replying, my internet has been on the bleep!

yea i do remember u. i'm just not a good person when in comes to keeping in touch.

i think hubby's sentencing is on the 18th. i feel like im going to be sentenced also. i don't know what im supposed to do.

i think all is lost with me. i doubt i will have anyone who will stand by me. i think im a lost cause.

[frankgallagherwasere]

KSKC Not that it matters much but there are many many in a similar position on the forums in exactly the same situation. You need a t-shirt that clearly says "No justice in the UK" or that the "Justice system is screwed" or even there to serve the criminals in society, it certainly doesn't go out of its way to catch and punish them.

In many ways your right, a sentence for hubby is also a sentence for you, you both have to suffer the consequences and you both will find it totally wrong and injust. The only conselation is that you will be stronger, closer and determind NOT to let anyone beat you, no matter what muck they might throw at you.

Others who dont stand by you or believe arent worth the ground they walk and air they breath, they dont understand no want to just how warped and biased the British justice system really is, you only find our when it catches you in its trawling nets.

Stay stong and remember you can always visit, its not a terminal illness, its not fatal its only a temp situation and it things and life can and will get better in time. We all know its going to be hard to adjust and accept, its all part of the nature of the beast.

Fingers crossed for you both.

[kskc]

Thanks frank, that's really nice of you.
to be honest, i haven't been strong. i dont know how to be. ask RF she has received so many emails off me.

hubby is from africa, and he came over as my husband. now that this has happened we are really worried that his visa will be taken away from him. i've gotten in so much debt and deeper into depression. we waited a year and a half for him to be here. he only has over a year of his visa left. i'm really worried that the sentence will go over his time allowed to stay.

if that happens then all my time and money will have gone to waste.

i think i wouldn't be so depressed if that wasn't hanging over my head.

that's why i think i have lost everything. because however things turn out i will lose him again. i don't see the point in fighting anymore. there's nothing more i can do. i am on death row.

[frankgallagherwasere]

Anyone who knows RF or of her will not have to be told she is one in a million, and although we dont always see eye to eye I have the upmost respect for her and for what she does. If there is anyone who can help, she is one of them, and unfortunately one of the few anyone can seriously and honestly trust to understand the mess and trauma these situations get people into.

That aside, why the hell do you want to stop in the UK? This country is screwed and over the next few years the taxes are going to go through the roof. I cant wait to get out of the damn place I hate it to its core and for what it stands for which is a sham. You cant walk or talk without someone somewhere watching you and recording it and then this issue over anyone being able to accuse you of literally anything they want and get you banged up and screw your job and career - no thankyou Im off first chance I get.

I can understand you wanting him home, thats obvious, however why not go with him, after all it cant surely be much worse than here and Id stuck 2 fingers up at anyone who wants anything from you. If you aint got it they cant have it after all.

Take em all for a ride girl !!

[kskc]

i know what you mean about RF, if there was an award for most helpful and supportive person here she would definitely win.

well, i got a lot of debt to begin with. unfortunately, here is where u can make money. i would love to move to africa. we have talked about it. but we need money to finish building our house over there and to keep us afloat until we can both find steady work there.

can i just leave the country without paying off all my loans and credit cards etc??

isn't that breaking the law....??

i know what you mean though, where i am is awful. people have forgotten what manners are. you smile or say hi to someone here and you would probably get robbed and beaten up!

everybody hates everybody else for no reason.

wherever we decide to go there's always this business with visas and money and dependants blah blah blah.

you can't just up root and go elsewhere without money in your pocket and that is something i don't have spare.

shame though.

[Saffron]

Might be worth talking to an insolvency/debt advisor about your options. If you own property it may be possible to offset what you owe against your property.
Africa is an amazing place! the people and the culture are totally different to ours in the UK, but the fundamentals are the same - treat people with respect and give as you would like to receive. Not sure where in Africa your Hubby is from (it's a big place!) but some are easier to assimilate yourself into than others. Botswana being a case in point - quite westernised and very welcoming. Others are very troubled lands - Zimbabwe and Somalia for example. Beautiful countries, and the people are amazing, but the political situation is very difficult.
When something like this happens, you can either curl up into a ball and wait for it to go away, or you can treat it as an opportunity - what is left for you and hubby in the UK? Why not start a new life in Africa? It could be incredibly exciting, and offer all sorts of opportunities.

I hope you find the peace that you seek, KSKC. Thinking of you.

Saffron x

[Rights Fighter]

That's a brilliant answer Saffron! I did wonder why she didn't think of going back with him but maybe it's not an option if there is no money in the kitty.