Looking for advice

[Staysee]

Well we hardley see his solicitor and didn't have time to speak to his barrister today.

It's getting majorly frustrating

[Rights Fighter]

does anyone know if the jury have a transcript of last time to work with aswell? As something that wasn't asked this time proved last time that one person had lied about something so.

I don't understand the question:

if the jury have a transcript of last time to work with aswell?

What are you asking there? Do you mean, "does the jury have a copy of the trial transcripts from the first trial?" If yes - no they don't.

Defence should cross-examine about any inconsistencies between the first and second trial

[Staysee]

Well he didn't cross examine from last time, last time they each ruined eachothers statements by saying different thing's.....this time they are similar in statements so are not tripping eachother up.

The only big mistake so far is one accusing is saying he told his brother early 2014 about it then when the brother was on the stand he said he was told spring 2015 about it and the barrister made him make sure he was absolutely 100% certain on that which he laughed about and said of course he was certain on it being right.

[Rights Fighter]

Oh no!! This is the sort of thing where I wish that people found the groups before trial.....

Just hope it all goes well. Keep posting and some of us will come in to support you each day of the trial.

Hold on in there

[Franticwithworry]

Thinking of youtoday :-)

[Staysee]

Today is tough.....seeing my other half and his mum wuestioned was hard, they made his mother cry.

I think my OH's barrister did a good job summing up though

2pm we go back to hear the judge sum up and hand over to the jury.

[Peter1975]

Everything is crossed here. Good luck

[Rights Fighter]

Let's hope the judge sums up fairly. Thinking of you

[Staysee]

Well the judge seemed fair.....he gave like two sides to every coin options, reasons why they might be truthful and reasons why not. Talked about tendencies and gave an example like a shop lifter with like 50 odd incidents of shop lifting going into a shop and putting stuff into a basket and then walking out, then saying when caught that he just forgot and didn't realise and said that even though someone may have a tendency to do something, doesn't mean on that instance he did.

Also he ran through the entire case from start to finish and before he spoke about my OH on the stand, he reminded the jury to treat him fairly and the same as you would anyone else on the stand, not to see him as bad because of what's been said, think of him the same way as you do the accusers.

He said he would try to remain impartial and not give away what he thought on the case and that just cos it was two members of the same family, doesn't make it true....at the same time, it happened within a family not strangers.

That's really all I can think of right now.

He offered the jury 40minutes to talk if they wished and asked them to put their hands up if they wanted too, but they declined it.....could they just be after that extra day off work? Or do you think they've already discussed it and are already at loggerheads and know 40mins isn't enough.

We find out tomorrow, the judge is meant to be the mot9experienced judge in the place aswell.

[Rights Fighter]

Could be that they were hot and bothered sat in the jury room so wanted a fresh clean start for tomorrow's deliberations.

Hold on in there! Dancing bananas are at the ready!

[Staysee]

So scared.....its not like either side is much better then the other. It all seems so equal, I just can't loose him.....we were planning on having a kid and he said he never wanted to marry anyone, but if he did it would be me....and now I might loose him

[Rights Fighter]

Try to get some sleep although I guess that will be impossible.

Hold on in there.

[Staysee]

Yeah, my theory is if I don't sleep it'll take longer to get to tomorrow so I can spend more time with him incase the worst happens.

We already know that if he goes down we're appealing and if I have to get into serious debt to get him out, I will and if he doesn't go down we're gonna complain that his solicitor never saw him, let evidence slip away, the stuff on fb being deleted which the solicitor asked to see Tuesday morning but we haven't seen him since.

[Rights Fighter]

I guess you won't want to think of the "worst case scenario" but he needs to be prepared just in case.

He needs to pack what we call the "nasty bag" which should contain underwear, clothes, track suit, trainers, flip flops to wear in the showers, postage stamps, stationery, money (if possible about £100). No black and white clothes.

There is a full list somewhere here. I'll see if I can find it.

He needs to have his own stuff and also money so that if the worst happens, he can have cash put onto his PIN phone account quickly so he can contact you, to let you know he is ok.

Edited to put the short list of "nasty bag"

Short list:

You won’t want to even think of being wrongfully convicted, but it would be far worse if you did not go prepared.


Money (notes) - as much as you can but not more than £400
Postage stamps - write your name and number on the back of the books
Stationery: writing paper and envelopes
Address book complete with useful names and addresses in - book cannot have metal in it
Flip flops for showers
Trainers (not expensive ones)
Track suit
Ordinary clothes - not black and white
Underwear: socks and pants - about 8 pairs of each
Paperback books - new
Quiz and similar type books - new and preferably in sealed covers
Prescription list from your GP and up to date medication
Toiletries - new - some prisons do not allow this but worth taking in case you can have them later on
NB: You might not be allowed all of the above in certain prisons but it should go into your “property” so if/when you are moved you may be able to have it where you move to.

[Rights Fighter]

the long version

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• [*=left]A decent sized holdall (to bring your possessions in and out of jail). It will usually be kept in storage while you are inside unless you get to a Cat-D (open prison).
  [*=left]Postage stamps and stationery
  [*=left]Cash – around £400 if at all possible to go into your prison bank account.
  [*=left]Two pairs of comfortable trainers (absolutely essential, keep one pair for the gym)
  [*=left]At least one pair of comfortable jeans (not black) with a belt (small buckle)
  [*=left]A couple of pairs of trackie bottoms (not black)
  [*=left]A couple of polo shirts (not black)
  [*=left]A couple of warm jumpers or sweatshirts (not black, no hoods)
  [*=left]A fleece (not black, unlined, no padding or quilting, no hood)
  [*=left]A beanie-style hat (not black, unlined) – especially if you’ll be in the nick for the winter
  [*=left]A pair of gloves (not black, unlined)
  [*=left]Two pairs of gym shorts (also good for in-cell wear, even if you don’t go to the gym)
  [*=left]A couple of gym vests or t-shirts (not black)
  [*=left]10 pairs of boxers or pants
  [*=left]10 pairs of new socks
  [*=left]A dressing gown (optional, but absolutely useful - makes you feel human. No hood)
  [*=left]A couple of pairs of pyjama bottoms (no-one under 70 wears pyjama tops in the nick)
  [*=left]A couple of medium size shower towels (not black and white ones will soon be grey)
  [*=left]A face flannel
  [*=left]A tea towel or two (you’ll be doing your own washing up in your cell)
  [*=left]A pair of good quality shower flip-flops (essential - prison showers can be very grubby)
  [*=left]A see-through plastic wash-kit bag with your own toothbrush, razor and spare blades, nail-clippers (no metal files – for obvious reasons)
  [*=left]A couple of pairs of foam earplugs (not silicon ones - get a good sleep even if your pad-mate snores like a freight train)
  [*=left]A mains or battery razor (if you don’t wet shave), not rechargeable or with the 2-pin travel adapter type plug
  [*=left]A set of mains or battery (not rechargeable) hair clippers – no scissors
  [*=left]A small battery or mains (not rechargeable) radio/CD player with headphones (in-the-ear type) – no Short Wave allowed, nor any item that has a USB port (because of recharging illicit mobile phones)
  [*=left]A small battery alarm clock (not digital)
  [*=left]A diary and a clear plastic pen
  [*=left]An address/telephone number book with no metal on/in it
  [*=left]A few family photos
  [*=left]Copies of any relevant vocational qualifications (can help to get a decent job in some nicks)
  [*=left]Wear any jewellery you want to keep in the nick: watch, wedding ring, neck chain etc)
  [*=left]Paperback books & quiz books
  [*=left]Up-to-date prescription list and filled out prescription medication

Don’t take in anything that is branded to any sports team or has national flags or logos. For example, national team tops or team colours are likely to be confiscated. This is a national prison policy to prevent team rivalry or fights between supporters inside the nick.You might not be allowed all of the above where you go first, but it might be given to you as you move/transfer. Anything you cannot have will remain as your “Property” and will move with you when you transfer to other prisons.