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    The practice of 'inviting' those against whom allegations of sexual offences have been made for voluntary interview at Police stations to enable investigation of the allegation, rather than a dawn arrest on the doorstep, is mercifully becoming more common.

    In view of this it might be of interest that the PACE regulations covering arrest are changing on the 12th of November 2012:

    http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/publica...12?view=Binary

    It is probably easier to understand the guidance notes provided at the end of the revised code rather than the document itself, and of particular interest is note 2H.

    My understanding of this paragraph is that an arrest purely to obtain DNA samples is not permitted (and of course sampling without arrest has to be on a voluntary basis)

    As there is rightly much concern amongst forum members regarding the retention of DNA, I thought that this point might be of interest, though it remains to be seen if a verbal allegation will be considered sufficient grounds for a subsequent arrest and sampling.
    'What doesn't kill you makes you stronger'

  • #2
    what happens if you refuse? Will they arrest just to obtain them or will the extra work put them off?
    And God promised men that good and obedient wives would be found in all corners of the world. Then made the world round .... and laughed and laughed and laughed ..

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    • #3
      Well in theory not, the idea of the new code is so that an arrest is justifiable on operational reasons and not done just as a matter of course.

      So if the interviewee said, "no I don't want to give a DNA sample" could the interviewer consider the sampling was necessary to carry on with a line of questioning and therefore arrest and sample? Probably not justifiable without other evidence that the offence has been committed.

      The new code really means that the previous routine process of arrest, sample, fingerprint & interview is no longer automatic but the OIC must first consider if it is justified; probably for most historic allegations it will not be.
      'What doesn't kill you makes you stronger'

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      • #4
        veering off-topic - have a look at http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...l-quicker.html
        And God promised men that good and obedient wives would be found in all corners of the world. Then made the world round .... and laughed and laughed and laughed ..

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        • #5
          Any chance of a link Casehardened so I can put this on my own forum?

          Ta ever so in advance
          People Appealing Convictions of Sexual Offences ~http://www.pacso.co.uk

          PAFAA details ~ https://pacso.co.uk/pafaa-people-aga...ions-of-abuse/

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Rights Fighter View Post
            Any chance of a link Casehardened so I can put this on my own forum?

            Ta ever so in advance
            Hi RF, the link is in my OP (not being cheeky but it would be confusing to put it in here again)
            'What doesn't kill you makes you stronger'

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            • #7
              Confusing? Not to me cos I am a confused muffin tonight I can tell ya! I am working on too many appeals........

              i shall whizz off and attempt to find it.....


              Edit - I don't have to to read through all that gggrrrrrrr
              People Appealing Convictions of Sexual Offences ~http://www.pacso.co.uk

              PAFAA details ~ https://pacso.co.uk/pafaa-people-aga...ions-of-abuse/

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              • #8
                The very useful guidance notes have obviously been added because the majority of officers either couldn't understand the document or couldn't be bothered to read it
                'What doesn't kill you makes you stronger'

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                • #9
                  You mean they might actually bother to read it on here and take notes?? Hmmmm
                  People Appealing Convictions of Sexual Offences ~http://www.pacso.co.uk

                  PAFAA details ~ https://pacso.co.uk/pafaa-people-aga...ions-of-abuse/

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                  • #10
                    I'm afraid that I only have read through the notes as I couldn't get my head around the actual document
                    'What doesn't kill you makes you stronger'

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                    • #11
                      I'm glad I'm not the only one! I've managed to confuse two appeals today - fortunately I realised within two minutes.

                      I really should only do one thing at a time. I'm getting too damn old for this lark!
                      People Appealing Convictions of Sexual Offences ~http://www.pacso.co.uk

                      PAFAA details ~ https://pacso.co.uk/pafaa-people-aga...ions-of-abuse/

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                      • #12
                        I've only ever been able to do one thing at a time (on account of being male)
                        'What doesn't kill you makes you stronger'

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                        • #13
                          Oh I don't know, I've met some men who can multi task.... not many granted
                          People Appealing Convictions of Sexual Offences ~http://www.pacso.co.uk

                          PAFAA details ~ https://pacso.co.uk/pafaa-people-aga...ions-of-abuse/

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Rights Fighter View Post

                            I really should only do one thing at a time.
                            Quoted. For. Truth.
                            "Be sure your sin will find you out"

                            Numbers 32:23

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                            • #15
                              Bog off you ol' woggle sock you!!!
                              People Appealing Convictions of Sexual Offences ~http://www.pacso.co.uk

                              PAFAA details ~ https://pacso.co.uk/pafaa-people-aga...ions-of-abuse/

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