Do you think that the police sometimes know who is innocent?

[OldJoe]

Just a quick one, do you think the arresting officer and what not know that someone is innocent? and could this affect the case?

[LS]

Yes, and yes. Depends how honest they are and how desperate they are to get up the career ladder.

An honest copper will put everything on the table to the cps and leave it at that. The dishonest ones will know you're innocent but not care less, and will ignore things which prove you innocent and either not pass them on, or influence the cps.

[RFLH]

very well said LS.

[Verity]

It is unspoken but common knowledge that the investigating officer has got a pretty good idea what's what.
The female who 'investigated' the false allegation against Mark certainly knew prior to his voluntary attendance at the station knew he was innocent.
She gave it away when visiting Mark's parents months prior to a PCSO turning up on my doorstep by saying to his mum on being asked if the allegation was serious the DC said; " it's nothing to worry about, it's easily sorted".
When we offered to drop everything and come to the station immediately when we phoned her she refused our offer TWICE. Mark said;, "It can't be serious then", to which she said; "If you had done something serious you would know about it".

When we met her at the station the look on her face was classic and she inanely said; "Oh, you look just like your photo". Well what did she expect him to look like?

At a later stage I will tell you what she did to Mark whilst he was in the custody unit (I'm not calling it a suite because that is the last thing it is) and the barefaced lies she told him about his mum and dad.

So the answer to your question: You bet their promotion they know who's a wrong un.

[LS]

In my opinion, they consider that if you have testicles then you are almost certainly a "wrong un."

[Rights Fighter]

LS, some women are falsely accused too.....it just doesn't make the headlines quite so much.

[lawlessone2009]

LS, some women are falsely accused too.....it just doesn't make the headlines quite so much.

Unless it's a teacher......

[lawlessone2009]

PS:

I'd imagine the cops listen to one side of the story and quantify the evidence.

They then listen to the other side of the story and quantify the evidence.


The 'accuser' gets first shot at impressing upon them what the story is, they then question the accused to look for similarities and disagreements.

I'd imagine they then chart out a 'probable' and proceed from there. I know that the Officers that questioned me had a 'check sheet' in front of them and filled out two columns, when one hit a certain point they entered 'charge mode'. Both columns were pretty neck and neck.

Whether the sheet was a distraction or not is anyones guess (probably was!) but I could pretty much guarantee I was being charged regardless of what they, personally, believed. I really don't think they personally have a choice in the matter, they merely gather evidence. The could share their personal opinions but then is the opinion true or to lull you into a 'friendly chat'.


I'm not going to keep going into complete negativity. The Police that investigate sexual offences are generally specialists in the area of sexual offences and can most likely spot a liar a mile away but they are still duty bound to carry out the investigation and provide the prosecutor with what they have. They 'could' be scathing of your character/appearance/tone/intelligence etc and they could twist things around to suit themselves but I highly doubt if 'bent' cops are in any kind of majority. It may seem that way but it really isn't.

Still, don't trust em!

[Casehardened]

but I could pretty much guarantee I was being charged regardless of what they, personally, believed. I really don't think they personally have a choice in the matter, they merely gather evidence.

It is worth emphasizing for any new member coming upon this post, that Lawlessone is referring to the procedure in Scotland where I believe charging for an offence isn't necessarily a precursor to a trial (which it usually is in the rest of the UK)

[lawlessone2009]

It is worth emphasizing for any new member coming upon this post, that Lawlessone is referring to the procedure in Scotland where I believe charging for an offence isn't necessarily a precursor to a trial (which it usually is in the rest of the UK)

Yeah, sorry... I get carried away sometimes and forget my foreigner status...

Being 'charged' in Scotland means basically bugger all...

Does sound bad though...

[marynarz]

Yes!!!

After the prosecution dropped charges against me, I heard police officer (prosecution witness) who was saying to the prosecution that he know that Im innocent and he wants to charge my accuser for perverting the course of justice etc. But prosecution lady told him that the case is closed and they will do nothing. I heard this conversation because they were sitting in front of me and I was using earphones with microphone in court.

[Verity]

WaC,
Does marynarz's post sound familiar?????????????????????????